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Let me tell you why people are killing highsec miners. A manifesto.

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Thomas Abernathy
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#361 - 2011-12-07 19:31:47 UTC
Dunbar Hulan wrote:
Never ganked a miner in hi-sec before, but after reading the thread- I'm all in.
Question, does anyone have an Amarr or a Caldari gank fit they could share? Also some basic tips on on hi sec miner ganking would be appreciated.



Just come watch the Goons for awhile, scan their fits, then you'll know what not to use...Oops

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Geoseph
Exemplar Industries
#362 - 2011-12-07 20:00:27 UTC
I suppose some people enjoy wasting their time mining. I have no idea why. Did it for a while. It was extraordinarily boring.

But then I suppose it is no more puzzling than someone who wastes their time spewing 7000+ words of cognitive diarrhea. But then I suppose you have to find something to do when you get bored of killing those who are relatively defenseless.
Geoseph
Exemplar Industries
#363 - 2011-12-07 20:02:00 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
Oh man why write such a long winded explanation when we know WHY you do it.... you like it, it's that simple, it makes you feel good to destroy a ship that can't fight back and it's human to attack and prey upon the weak. Bullies have the same mentality, they enjoy to bully those who they perceive to be weak because it's easy. Don't tell me you are doing eve online favors, we know it's a load of crap, you do it because you are an antisocial little sadist who gets the greatest enjoyment out of destroying and kicking other peoples sand castles. You probably enjoy making your little sister cry too.... you are weak and pathetic and you hide behind a greater cause but in reality you are nothing more then a virtual bully.


Well put
Knoppaz
distress signals
#364 - 2011-12-07 20:05:39 UTC
James 315 wrote:
tons of stuff



..this manifesto perfectly shows 2 things:

1. you have a point
2. you have way too much time

Btw, have you thought for at least a moment, how many miners you could have suicided while writing that text? Lol

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Tei Lin
Bit Ninjas
#365 - 2011-12-07 21:11:59 UTC
I don't normally browse the eve-o forums, but when I do it's to read 10/10s. Big smile
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#366 - 2011-12-07 22:27:28 UTC
Geoseph wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
Oh man why write such a long winded explanation when we know WHY you do it.... you like it, it's that simple, it makes you feel good to destroy a ship that can't fight back and it's human to attack and prey upon the weak. Bullies have the same mentality, they enjoy to bully those who they perceive to be weak because it's easy. Don't tell me you are doing eve online favors, we know it's a load of crap, you do it because you are an antisocial little sadist who gets the greatest enjoyment out of destroying and kicking other peoples sand castles. You probably enjoy making your little sister cry too.... you are weak and pathetic and you hide behind a greater cause but in reality you are nothing more then a virtual bully.


Well put


+1
Grainsalt
Independent'R'Us
#367 - 2011-12-07 22:38:41 UTC
Brings a tear to my eye. So much so that me and 4 friends ganked a hulk in hisec just yesterday with destroyers. Ah the fun.

Makes me want to raise my sec status just to kill some more.
Hannibalx
#368 - 2011-12-07 23:58:27 UTC
10/10

I disagree with around half of it, but a very entertaining read none the less. Just oozing with hatred Twisted
Sanguine Belroth
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#369 - 2011-12-08 03:09:39 UTC
Dunbar Hulan wrote:
Never ganked a miner in hi-sec before, but after reading the thread- I'm all in.
Question, does anyone have an Amarr or a Caldari gank fit they could share? Also some basic tips on on hi sec miner ganking would be appreciated.


Well, on a purely hypothetical basis.

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#370 - 2011-12-08 03:24:27 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
Geoseph wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
Oh man why write such a long winded explanation when we know WHY you do it.... you like it, it's that simple, it makes you feel good to destroy a ship that can't fight back and it's human to attack and prey upon the weak. Bullies have the same mentality, they enjoy to bully those who they perceive to be weak because it's easy. Don't tell me you are doing eve online favors, we know it's a load of crap, you do it because you are an antisocial little sadist who gets the greatest enjoyment out of destroying and kicking other peoples sand castles. You probably enjoy making your little sister cry too.... you are weak and pathetic and you hide behind a greater cause but in reality you are nothing more then a virtual bully.


Well put


+1
You guys realise that you don't decide someone else's motivations right?

The real world isn't like EVE - it won't twist itself to match your perceptions of it.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#371 - 2011-12-08 04:10:07 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Telegram Sam wrote:
Geoseph wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
Oh man why write such a long winded explanation when we know WHY you do it.... you like it, it's that simple, it makes you feel good to destroy a ship that can't fight back and it's human to attack and prey upon the weak. Bullies have the same mentality, they enjoy to bully those who they perceive to be weak because it's easy. Don't tell me you are doing eve online favors, we know it's a load of crap, you do it because you are an antisocial little sadist who gets the greatest enjoyment out of destroying and kicking other peoples sand castles. You probably enjoy making your little sister cry too.... you are weak and pathetic and you hide behind a greater cause but in reality you are nothing more then a virtual bully.


Well put


+1
You guys realise that you don't decide someone else's motivations right?

The real world isn't like EVE - it won't twist itself to match your perceptions of it.
While true, it's no more presumptuous than the op.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#372 - 2011-12-08 04:11:39 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
While true, it's no more presumptuous than the op.
OP uses deductions, not presumptions.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#373 - 2011-12-08 04:26:40 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
While true, it's no more presumptuous than the op.
OP uses deductions, not presumptions.

So you are saying that the op has fully observed and defined the set of motivations and characteristics that universally apply to all highsec miners? A talented man indeed. I suppose during my time mining I was doing it wrong. Though, I'm not aware that my activities, nor the uses of the isk that I made doing it were observed by him.
Douglas Dogood
Basic Simple
#374 - 2011-12-08 08:31:49 UTC
I just got done building 100 hulks if anyone is interested shoot me a convo in game...k bye

-- DOug
Jenshae Chiroptera
#375 - 2011-12-08 09:33:41 UTC
Page 19 ...

Is the "We are killing bots" vs "Goons are scum," thing ended yet? P

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Not even once

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ariana ailith
Dukalin
#376 - 2011-12-08 10:19:21 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Page 19 ...

Is the "We are killing bots" vs "Goons are scum," thing ended yet? P


Not quite
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#377 - 2011-12-08 12:22:13 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
While true, it's no more presumptuous than the op.
OP uses deductions, not presumptions.

So you are saying that the op has fully observed and defined the set of motivations and characteristics that universally apply to all highsec miners? A talented man indeed. I suppose during my time mining I was doing it wrong. Though, I'm not aware that my activities, nor the uses of the isk that I made doing it were observed by him.
No, I am saying that he has observed and defined a set of motivations and characteristics which apply to a subset of highsec miners.

I was a highsec miner once too. Well, technically it was lowsec, but it was right next to highsec, so close enough.

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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#378 - 2011-12-08 15:35:31 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
While true, it's no more presumptuous than the op.
OP uses deductions, not presumptions.

I only read as far as when OP said something like, "Most miners are bots who should be killed. Human miners mine right beside them. I will not tolerate bots or people who harbor them." So human miners are harboring bot miners? What kind of deduction is that? A fallacious, false, convenient-for-one's-argument presumptious one-- that's what kind. Five lines into the argument, and we already had a non sequitur.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#379 - 2011-12-08 15:40:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Crumplecorn
Telegram Sam wrote:
I only read as far as when OP said something like, "Most miners are bots who should be killed. Human miners mine right beside them. I will not tolerate bots or people who harbor them." So human miners are harboring bot miners? What kind of deduction is that? A fallacious, false, convenient-for-one's-argument presumptious one-- that's what kind. Five lines into the argument, and we already had a non sequitur.


Quote:
Of course the highsec miners harbor the bots. They camouflage them. They act as human shields. If it weren't for human players mining in highsec, the remainder would be known botters, and would be instantly banned.
Seems logical to me. Or are you saying {Bots, Miners} \ {Miners} != {Bots}? That's a fallacy.

Now you may argue that it implies that miners intentionally harbor bots, which they don't, and I'd agree, but the OP was written for maximum trollololing effect, so it applies a bit of hyperbole. The underlying point however, is sound.

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Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
#380 - 2011-12-08 15:53:41 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
The underlying point however, is sound.


Then your an idiot too

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