Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Idk what all the no sayers think, but every year or two you should be able to clean up your characters from the newbro experience to the focused character you have become..

The training time is already invested, so it is by no means "pay to win" other than irritating som character speculants earning their isks on character basar.

Years go, interess shift, lessons learned..

Edit: It might even help against player burnout, as training take a shitload of time and many just logs out untill they can finally do whatever they where training for..

My not wanting Eve to be like all other MMO's is my point. Why should it be? Why shouldn't CCP make their game differentr from the others out there?


Thanks for the chuckle, that's the first time I've ever been called bitter and reactionary, if holding the same opinion now about this as I did the first time I saw the idea around 13 months ago is reactionary I do wonder what conservative would be...and how does proposing sweeping changes to the whole basis of skills and training within Eve not make you reactionary?


In my opinion it is a good thing that you can't just go jump into a HAC or FotM T3, BS or any other high end ship. A game should have progression whether it is via character levels, platform levels, unlocking equipment, etc etc. The progression in Eve cmes through your training, and the choices you make have an impact on this. The content is not locked to you if you go along with corp members with higher skills than you and run the content along with them whatever it may be. For example You can try hacking a Superior Sleeper cache in a tech I scanning frig with tech I analyzers if a corpmate gives you the location, you just won't succeed very much.


Waiting is not bad when it is governing your progression in game and doing so whether you are logged in or not. Everybody is equal in this respect. You believe the system to be objectively terrible, I see your opinion as entirely subjective since I like it just fine as it is. Printing something in capital letters does not automatically make your point the only correct one.


That depends on your point of view. I simply don't like PvP and I have plenty of skills that should make me proficient at it. I'm not an older player but can fly Ishkurs at maximum level V skills in all relevant areas. I might go into frig WH's to play around there but that would be because I enjoy exploration, not becasue I'm looking for PvP. Whether PvP is rewarding is purely subjective as each player will have diferent measures to determine this.

In terms of skills and remaps you seem to be only considering PvP here. How would you suggest managing other areas of eve such as mining, invention, manufacture, explo? These are governed by skills also, the more time invested in training in these areas, the more you can do and more easily. I believe this is a good and fair way to rewards those who have invested the time and money to focus on those areas and that is only balanced by the current SP mechanisms.

Is this thread dead yet?

Hell ISD agreed with my deployment of the "this is ******** posting" on page one...

Why not just have sp accrue on an account instead of a character, and then if you biomass a character that sp goes back into the account pool. Then I could buy characters off the bazaar and just eat them. Eat the delicious characters.

I have to admit this is a creative solution that both gives us a way to speed up our character development and also continues to support the bazaar. I like it.

it's embarrassing in some ways, first started years ago but quit for a long time, watching the tournament videos drawn me back in. no idea what i was doing back then at all, , im still learning alot coming back recently.. the one time skill point revamp or able to buy one would kickkkk asssssss...

i had no clue about what ships did back then or how they would work in groups, i know alot of other players and new ones have had this problem aswell in the past and present. i trained in so many skills i wish i didn't . more money is always good, right ? :P

i would pay for it if possible.

One day the dream of removing convoluted legacy mechanics, that add nothing more than complexity for it's own sake, and add no game play value, will be realised. and they will be purged into the bowels of the historic archive, to be only remember by ancient bittervets.

Dare to dream.

I'm in favor of being able to remap SP as long as it involves no sort of pay to win scheme. Make it work a bit like attribute remapping - give us a free remap only once a year, and perhaps a bonus remap on occasion.

In addition, there should be a limit to how much SP you can remap at a time. Being able to remap your entire skillset would be a bit broken. Something like 5-10% of your current total SP would be reasonable.

I trained astrometrics to 5 to use deep space probes, CCP took them away. I have no intention of using this toon to build covert portals. So yea..

Alot of eve patch make players want to remap his skills .. Its a good idea than we can remap those skills. . The same this last patch all players want to be able remap his fighter skills. ... Change funtion of ship = remap ship skills Too