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Jenshae Chiroptera
#1401 - 2016-01-02 14:28:03 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
All WE can do is block her.
That is fine too. Still paying a subscription and can't interfere with me directly.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Solecist Project
#1402 - 2016-01-02 14:32:41 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
All WE can do is block her.
That is fine too. Still paying a subscription and can't interfere with me directly.

No, that's incorrect Jen.
They grow.
With WiS, they'd grow even further.
What do you think happens when there's tens of thousands more little Indahs around?

You think they'll stay silent after being scammed, bumed or ganked?
No, they will scream bloody murder and how they're a significant part of the paying customers
and they will demand that the game is being changed for them, which will kill it.

Because that's what carebears always do.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#1403 - 2016-01-02 14:53:53 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:

Because it seems to me your real problem with the situation is that you believe yourself to be elevated above others, and don't want anyone else in your game who shares deviating interests.

So you mean kind of like the people that laughed at the Dust 514 community while spamming "PC MASTER RACE" in the Twitch chat during the infamous unveil of Project Legion back in 2014? Blink

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
Jenshae Chiroptera
#1404 - 2016-01-02 15:00:07 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
All WE can do is block her.
That is fine too. Still paying a subscription and can't interfere with me directly.

No, that's incorrect Jen.
They grow.
With WiS, they'd grow even further.
What do you think happens when there's tens of thousands more little Indahs around?

You think they'll stay silent after being scammed, bumed or ganked?
No, they will scream bloody murder and how they're a significant part of the paying customers
and they will demand that the game is being changed for them, which will kill it.

Because that's what carebears always do.
Engrave it on the wall and the monument.
Put it on the front page.

"Make EVE deep and make it difficult."

(Suck up the carebear money but use it as a bonus revenue stream that you can throw away if need be.)

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Solecist Project
#1405 - 2016-01-02 15:11:35 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
All WE can do is block her.
That is fine too. Still paying a subscription and can't interfere with me directly.

No, that's incorrect Jen.
They grow.
With WiS, they'd grow even further.
What do you think happens when there's tens of thousands more little Indahs around?

You think they'll stay silent after being scammed, bumed or ganked?
No, they will scream bloody murder and how they're a significant part of the paying customers
and they will demand that the game is being changed for them, which will kill it.

Because that's what carebears always do.
Engrave it on the wall and the monument.
Put it on the front page.

"Make EVE deep and make it difficult."

(Suck up the carebear money but use it as a bonus revenue stream that you can throw away if need be.)

Hey I'm all for people throwing money at the game, even if it's little Indahs ...
... but this will backfire if the game caters to them too much.

That's simply a risk not worth taking, because these people never shut up.
WiS would work around natural selection and I'm sure you understand what that means.

Funnily enough has this game proven to work much better by not catering to the weak ...
... and by being complicated, hardcore and cutthroat. So not for these people.

Why not instead take the other route and make it a game for elitists again ... ?

Give us WiS ... yeah ... let us have guns, knifes and baseball bats.
Let us have anarchy and groups that control stations!
Let them demand a fee to be allowed to enter certain establishments!

This "everyone is equal" bullshit needs to go away.
Not everyone in this game should have the right to speak up as he sees fit.
No one should be allowed to hide from consequences.

No one should be able to hide behind alts AND have the right to an opinion!

It completely erodes natural selection and promotes the weak far too much!


*adds pepper for flavour*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Jenshae Chiroptera
#1406 - 2016-01-02 15:22:44 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
... but this will backfire IF the game caters to them too much. ...
*adds pepper for flavour*
Notice how I talk about doing the avatar stuff by patching us into Dust. Sandwich them between a FPS and EVE. Hardly a romantic setting for their love of bunnies to bloom. P

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#1407 - 2016-01-02 15:25:37 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Give us WiS ... yeah ... let us have guns, knifes and baseball bats.
Let us have anarchy and groups that control stations!
Let them demand a fee to be allowed to enter certain establishments!
My alt would totally agree with you! Pity she is now unsubbed. Otherwise, she'd demand a sidearm again.

But you had her last likes! :P
Solecist Project
#1408 - 2016-01-02 15:41:04 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
... but this will backfire IF the game caters to them too much. ...
*adds pepper for flavour*
Notice how I talk about doing the avatar stuff by patching us into Dust. Sandwich them between a FPS and EVE. Hardly a romantic setting for their love of bunnies to bloom. P


I like that idea.
Everything that gives us the tools to make sure the pest is kept in check.

Tamiroth wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Give us WiS ... yeah ... let us have guns, knifes and baseball bats.
Let us have anarchy and groups that control stations!
Let them demand a fee to be allowed to enter certain establishments!
My alt would totally agree with you! Pity she is now unsubbed. Otherwise, she'd demand a sidearm again.

But you had her last likes! :P
That's nice! I will keep them in honour,
as soon as I find out who your alt was! :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#1409 - 2016-01-02 16:58:32 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
... but this will backfire IF the game caters to them too much. ...
*adds pepper for flavour*
Notice how I talk about doing the avatar stuff by patching us into Dust. Sandwich them between a FPS and EVE. Hardly a romantic setting for their love of bunnies to bloom. P

I think I can speak for the majority of the Dust 514 community when I say I would be glad to be part of efforts to "keep the pest in check".

Honestly we have some of that same issue with people whining about how the game isn't easy enough for them.

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
Jenshae Chiroptera
#1410 - 2016-01-02 17:00:48 UTC
MidnightWyvern wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
... but this will backfire IF the game caters to them too much. ...
*adds pepper for flavour*
Notice how I talk about doing the avatar stuff by patching us into Dust. Sandwich them between a FPS and EVE. Hardly a romantic setting for their love of bunnies to bloom. P

I think I can speak for the majority of the Dust 514 community when I say I would be glad to be part of efforts to "keep the pest in check".

Honestly we have some of that same issue with people whining about how the game isn't easy enough for them.
I will be glad to jettison your pests into space or fire them out as ammo if that becomes an option o7

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Solecist Project
#1411 - 2016-01-02 17:55:57 UTC
Hey Jen, I've been talking in local in the system!
Suddenly people started talking!

Some people are in eRP, really interesting! ^_^

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Roberta Gastoni
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1412 - 2016-01-02 19:37:28 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Hey Jen, I've been talking in local in the system!
Suddenly people started talking!

Some people are in eRP, really interesting! ^_^


A Solecist Project walks into a Local chat Smile
Amber Starview
Doomheim
#1413 - 2016-01-02 21:41:00 UTC
It is a good feature that should be added already ...and although may not add directly to some peoples play style for others it may add lots

I'm for diverse player base
Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#1414 - 2016-01-03 01:04:46 UTC
Walking in stations?

Its hard enough already to get people to undock.

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
Vertinox
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1415 - 2016-01-03 06:45:27 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
All WE can do is block her.
That is fine too. Still paying a subscription and can't interfere with me directly.

No, that's incorrect Jen.
They grow.
With WiS, they'd grow even further.
What do you think happens when there's tens of thousands more little Indahs around?

You think they'll stay silent after being scammed, bumed or ganked?
No, they will scream bloody murder and how they're a significant part of the paying customers
and they will demand that the game is being changed for them, which will kill it.

Because that's what carebears always do.


Maybe you should just message all the care bears and tell them to invest in Star Citizen and leave EVE alone.

I mean they already have working walking in stations that you can play now.
Solecist Project
#1416 - 2016-01-03 10:24:33 UTC
So what?
Go there and stop paying our sub here.
Stop wasting isk or plex for something you don't want.

You don't do that, though. You don't go to your friends and post on the SC forums,
no, you post here. You lack any believability whatsoever, just like every single one of
you folks who declare they leave for any other game.

Except Indah. Indah doesn't attempt to bullshit us about leaving for other games.
I guess she got that going for herself... which is actually nice.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#1417 - 2016-01-03 10:25:52 UTC
Roberta Gastoni wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Hey Jen, I've been talking in local in the system!
Suddenly people started talking!

Some people are in eRP, really interesting! ^_^


A Solecist Project walks into a Local chat Smile

Even in WHs people start talking when I'm around. XD

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Sharise Dragonstar
Big Strong
Hisec Miners
#1418 - 2016-01-03 12:04:48 UTC
I am all up for walking in stations.It would be a good addition to the game. Our avatars do look great and it would be great to have somewhere to show them off and to customise them even more. Player owned shops and other novelties could be added etc.

However it still must remain true to the eve traditions so the ability to destroy, hinder or manipulate another avatar must be included. Eve has always been about PvP in every different way possible. If someone can blow up another players ship simply because they are bored (or any other reason) then someone should be able to destroy another players avatar for any conceivable reason. If WiS were just going to be for non combatant content primarily aimed at care bears then the time invested in it would be better spent developing the game as it was originally intended.
Amber Starview
Doomheim
#1419 - 2016-01-03 12:19:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Amber Starview
It is funny the people complaining about wis and avatar customisation are usually the ones most heavily customised with all the stuff they argue is not important - it's crazy funny to read them complain avatars are pointless and nobody cares then to see s heavily customised char photo lol

So much salt from anti wis Crowd its funny - pretty much the most lame thing to tell someone to go play something else if they disagree with you = you lost the argument and have nothing else lol
Roberta Gastoni
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1420 - 2016-01-03 13:34:01 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
So what?
Go there and stop paying our sub here.
Stop wasting isk or plex for something you don't want.

You don't do that, though. You don't go to your friends and post on the SC forums,
no, you post here. You lack any believability whatsoever, just like every single one of
you folks who declare they leave for any other game.

Except Indah. Indah doesn't attempt to bullshit us about leaving for other games.
I guess she got that going for herself... which is actually nice.


You know, regardless of the game, everywhere is the same.

If you go on a wow forums, it's full of naysayers calling for its imminent death and how they are going to quit, or even worse, they actually don't play it anymore but they feel the need to tell everybody how the game is bad and they should leave it.

Then you move on EvE forums, and it's the same.

Even worse are the people who wish to turn a game into another, because they loved that other game, but they don't play it anymore, but they would love to see it here, in the new game. This basically summarize this thread.

People wish to have aspects of Second Life, Star Citizen and even WoW into EvE, but they don't actually play anymore (or ever played) those games. And the more a game survive over the time, the less it's going to be like other games, because clones have a short lifespan.

Don't be denial people, all the WoW clones died, all, every single one from Wildstar to SW:ToR passing from Elder Scrolls online and its hundred of bugs (yes, hundreds, it's not a made up number, at the release it was unplayable), and you wish to have a clone feature of some other game, without any real benefit to the real EvE gameplay implemented instead of other gameplay changes or additions? You guys really want to return shooting the jita monument, don't you?

I'll leave an old school, iconic and ironic photoshop of the original EvE poster:

EvE Poster

And a relevant reddit post:

Reddit - 2006 EvE

This is the spirit of EvE, this is the vision of the game and this is the game most of us signed for. When I'll want to walk into a ship hangar, I'll go donate 50 euros to Chris Roberts.

P.s. Now that I think about it, I should probably make a corp called Robertas Space Industries and have a RSI. tag