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Walking in stations

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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#1241 - 2015-10-10 08:07:46 UTC
the last thing we need is Star Citizen fan boys and girls. Also Eve and Star Citizen are like polar opposites in what they are. SC isn't even really an MMO.

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#1242 - 2015-10-10 12:45:26 UTC
Cahir Ceallach wrote:
CCP,

You deploy ship skinks, you deploy clothes.

Why do you don't relase you can get new customers from star citizen players.


They are fascinate about walking on stations, walking on ship, and walkings of planets. We wanna real sandbox.


BECAUSE

THEY

CAN'T


Why is this so hard for people to accept?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#1243 - 2015-10-10 13:46:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Cahir Ceallach wrote:
CCP,

You deploy ship skinks, you deploy clothes.

Why do you don't relase you can get new customers from star citizen players.


They are fascinate about walking on stations, walking on ship, and walkings of planets. We wanna real sandbox.
Most of the players that it would theoretically attract would rage quit when they undock and eventually get ganked. Lack of walking somewhere is not what puts most people off of Eve, the very nature of the game does that, and that is by design; hence the term niche game.

Star Citizen is burning money and achieving little by trying to be all of things for all of the people, Half Life 3 is more likely to be released than Star Citizen is to be a "finished" game that lives up to the promises that have been made.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

Aina Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1244 - 2015-10-10 15:56:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Aina Aideron
I think a well-prepared concept on how an initial step into avatar gameplay, is something CCP could get feedback on from all players in a survey. For example through the regular survey.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#1245 - 2015-10-10 16:08:29 UTC
This is dumb.

No thanks. Delete thread please we don't need people talking about this anymore.

If you really want to walk around and talk to people, step up away from your computer and go "walk in station" outside or something.

The nerve of some people . . . .
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1246 - 2015-10-10 21:25:36 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
'main' game

You are forgetting that WIS, done right, would be a part of a game as much as every other part they added earlier.

Conflict between players with this board game "Slay".
Interactions between avatars and NPC in bars.
Customizability with player establishments and clothes.

yeah i don't think a facebook game is going to knit wis into eve online

Malcanis wrote:
BECAUSE

THEY

CAN'T

what if they believe in themselves cos the power of belief can overcome all obstacles and friendship is the greatest treasure
W33b3l
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1247 - 2015-10-11 15:27:31 UTC
The real question is why CCP is still designing new cloths and putting it up for sale for aurum when you can't even leave your outer space hotel room. They should either finish WIS or completely remove the captain's quarters. Going on the way they are doesn't really make much sense.

Sure walking around the station would be an interesting distraction, but it would get old quick since it would be pointless.
Terenius Neo
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1248 - 2015-10-11 16:56:08 UTC
There will always be a drawing feeling about to face a sleeper or a true slave face to face with my character and point a assault rifle on them after docking a station of named folk, right after my ship turned the defenses into dust or hunting a augmented Serpentis crime lord in high sec stations, lower level.

I imagine doing this while taking a walk in the park dome before, watching the stars above and eavesdrop someone talking about drugs. What was demanded by the local agent or something.

Really, the Eve Universe is everything possible in sci-fi to date. You know when you read the novels. I remember the chapter in The Burning Life about cosmetic changes. Sick but I loved it.
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#1249 - 2015-10-12 05:23:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
Malcanis wrote:
Cahir Ceallach wrote:
CCP,

You deploy ship skinks, you deploy clothes.

Why do you don't relase you can get new customers from star citizen players.


They are fascinate about walking on stations, walking on ship, and walkings of planets. We wanna real sandbox.


BECAUSE

THEY

CAN'T


Why is this so hard for people to accept?



Probably because nobody with even a shred of sense believes them when they say that.

Optimizations were certainly necessary, but it could be done. Graphic card tech has also advanced quite a bit since the summer of rage. The stress can be handled much better for most users.

The reason it hasn't been done is because it became not a priority, not because it was an unsolvable dilemma. Hilmar got burned in a big way and he was terrified of even approaching the subject again.
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#1250 - 2015-10-12 07:10:24 UTC
W33b3l wrote:
The real question is why CCP is still designing new cloths and putting it up for sale for aurum when you can't even leave your outer space hotel room. They should either finish WIS or completely remove the captain's quarters. Going on the way they are doesn't really make much sense.

Sure walking around the station would be an interesting distraction, but it would get old quick since it would be pointless.

Wait you have captain quarters on? I do have captain quarters removed. At lot of people do! One of the reasons they don't bother with WiS is they have data on how many people really give a ****. Oh and as has been said about a billion times before. They people that want WiS or would pay for it, won't play eve. They already play the different WoW in space games out there. You won't capture that audience by doing more of the same.

Seriously who wants a ******* space toilet. What 5% chance per hour you go "afk" for a dump. 10% chance of fecal matter in mouth during combat for each subsequent dump? Need to train take space ***** to lvl 5.

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.

Hecatanidi
Eridu Productions
#1251 - 2015-11-03 15:01:31 UTC
I want WiS

Sorry if it annoys ppl.

EvE is the most beautifully designes space game available by far. Why not just walk around corridors and enjoy the view. @CCP: Just make sure you don't forget portholes.
LancashireUK
R.O.S.A.
#1252 - 2015-11-03 15:26:52 UTC
Hecatanidi wrote:
I want WiS

Sorry if it annoys ppl.

EvE is the most beautifully designes space game available by far. Why not just walk around corridors and enjoy the view. @CCP: Just make sure you don't forget portholes.


So do I. I was looking forward to WIS, and I was hoping in the future we would be able to land on planets and take a look around. I understand though that WIS was a tester for their WoD MMO that they gave up on.

IMO CCP has the best space MMO at the moment, they just need to add more to attract new people and keep current subscribers entertained. I can see SC taking a few EVE players as it seems to be offering quite a wide variety of gameplay options in a space sim, ie. Pilot, FPS, crafting, trading, exploring, landing on planets, etc. with the option of viewing your character or not.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#1253 - 2015-11-03 15:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Malcanis wrote:
Cahir Ceallach wrote:
CCP,

You deploy ship skinks, you deploy clothes.

Why do you don't relase you can get new customers from star citizen players.


They are fascinate about walking on stations, walking on ship, and walkings of planets. We wanna real sandbox.


BECAUSE

THEY

CAN'T


Why is this so hard for people to accept?


I too used to bang my head against the same brick wall Big smile. I don't know all WiS advocates and don't claim to, this is just an observation, something i see in the ones that post in these forums: They just aren't the pragmatic type. They are 'dreamer' types and when you are a dreamer, anything is possible for you (don't let objective reality tell you otherwise!).

People who feel that way about themselves (again, regardless of any evidence to the contrary, notice all the 'dreamers' who claim to be actors despite their 15 year tenure at this fine and totally high class eating establishment) , they think it's also true of everyone else, including CCP. So to them, all CCP has to do is just believe in themselves really really hard and BAM, next thing you know, WiS.


TL;DR, it's no use telling them what you told them even though it's actually true.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#1254 - 2015-11-03 17:57:22 UTC
Why hasn't Dust been better integrated with WiS?
There is already all that code there that we could be using.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1255 - 2015-11-03 18:21:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
dust? o god here we go again. Wis holy ****. Thats was the old stuff now. The want it pay to win sp isk game. Rage there please do not reopen a old threat is a dead topic.

WiS is dead and Dust is a fail game, when the last players leave the game will shot down for good burred some where in the forgotten pool of failures
Jenshae Chiroptera
#1256 - 2015-11-03 18:49:43 UTC
Dust is officially profitable. Not a huge success but they are in the green now.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

ReptilesBlade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1257 - 2015-11-03 23:39:55 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Cahir Ceallach wrote:
CCP,

You deploy ship skinks, you deploy clothes.

Why do you don't relase you can get new customers from star citizen players.


They are fascinate about walking on stations, walking on ship, and walkings of planets. We wanna real sandbox.


BECAUSE

THEY

CAN'T


Why is this so hard for people to accept?



Probably because nobody with even a shred of sense believes them when they say that.

Optimizations were certainly necessary, but it could be done. Graphic card tech has also advanced quite a bit since the summer of rage. The stress can be handled much better for most users.

The reason it hasn't been done is because it became not a priority, not because it was an unsolvable dilemma. Hilmar got burned in a big way and he was terrified of even approaching the subject again.


As someone who fully participated in the summer of rage it is as it should be. Hilmar needs to be terrified of us, because if he does something like that again we wont be just calling for his head we will be mounting it outside the keeps wall.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#1258 - 2015-11-03 23:45:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
ReptilesBlade wrote:
As someone who fully participated in the summer of rage it is as it should be. Hilmar needs to be terrified of us, because if he does something like that again we wont be just calling for his head we will be mounting it outside the keeps wall.
I was there.
WiS was disappointing but potential of "gold ammo" / "gold ships" and monocles where the real rage.
I was pretty pissed off that my 8800 GTX seemed fine, I AFK with the Captain's Quarters running (you couldn't chose ship spinning at that point), come back later and it was fried.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#1259 - 2015-11-13 12:32:12 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
ReptilesBlade wrote:
As someone who fully participated in the summer of rage it is as it should be. Hilmar needs to be terrified of us, because if he does something like that again we wont be just calling for his head we will be mounting it outside the keeps wall.
I was there.
WiS was disappointing but potential of "gold ammo" / "gold ships" and monocles where the real rage.
I was pretty pissed off that my 8800 GTX seemed fine, I AFK with the Captain's Quarters running (you couldn't chose ship spinning at that point), come back later and it was fried.



Don't worry. I had an 8800gtx (the one with the massive fan?) and one day I started up my computer and the fan didn't spin, thing ******* melted.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1260 - 2015-11-18 21:59:38 UTC
I think if we had WiS the player count wouldnt be in the low 20ks today