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Boom Laison
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1161 - 2015-09-11 06:48:03 UTC
This game is a very nice real life simulator, IMHO. With real economy and so. Walking in stations could be a nice and logical extension. Even if there would be no direct combat experience (poison someone in bar so he could not use clone and die with result of losing all/part skills could be nice and could be awefull, depends on point of view.)
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#1162 - 2015-09-11 06:56:25 UTC
Boom Laison wrote:
This game is a very nice real life simulator, IMHO. With real economy and so. Walking in stations could be a nice and logical extension. Even if there would be no direct combat experience (poison someone in bar so he could not use clone and die with result of losing all/part skills could be nice and could be awefull, depends on point of view.)


Game of alts.

CCP have probably abandoned the concept of WIS entirely because it straight up doesn't mesh well with the rest of the game. How completely lame would it be to have your 3bil hg clone get killed while you were logged off asleep?

Yes I know that a form of this is coming in terms of station destruction in null but that's not the same as say getting assassinated by a plant who quit corp a day after settling in to your staging station.

Combat related WIS is simply not a good idea.

That's not to say WIS has no place its just that you're going to face an uphill battle from the sabre rattlers still cooing the doom call of incarna.

I really wish those guys would just **** off and get out of the way. CCP could never pull another incarna and survive we don't need the incessant nay saying of the myopic trolls.
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#1163 - 2015-09-11 07:44:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Boom Laison wrote:
This game is a very nice real life simulator, IMHO. With real economy and so. Walking in stations could be a nice and logical extension. Even if there would be no direct combat experience (poison someone in bar so he could not use clone and die with result of losing all/part skills could be nice and could be awefull, depends on point of view.)


Game of alts.

CCP have probably abandoned the concept of WIS entirely because it straight up doesn't mesh well with the rest of the game.



All the more reason to implement it.


The games content needs a side-grade.


Plenty of people (I would argue most) who don't really care for what EVE offers in terms of gameplay, but appreciate the universe itself and would be happy to do other stuff in it which doesn't involve being a spaceship or playing a laggy FPS.
Flynn Fetladral
Tempered Aggression
Seker Matar
#1164 - 2015-09-11 07:48:34 UTC
I did really like the in station mini-game they showed off before. They should release that as a standalone iOS game.

Oh and we used a little officer mods. KIDDING! We used a lot of officers mods, A LOT! Because we don’t :censored: around in low-sec.

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Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#1165 - 2015-09-11 07:52:49 UTC
At this point it would probably be best if ruin-exploration was kept on the eve client, but massive station environments had its own independent client that could be used to access character data from any of the eve related games. Best way to get everyone interacting imo.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#1166 - 2015-09-11 08:41:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Desslok VonReich wrote:
Wow. Pages of "WiS is good/bad", "Burn Jita was about this/that", and lots of personal attacks.

And not a single post with new, compelling, solid gameplay for WiS. And absolutely nothing that would actually be an immersive capsuleer experience.

Capsuleers have all the promise that trans-humanism can offer and the best you all come up with is sitting at a bar for a drink or playing cards?

You have the ability to transfer consciousness at will, and the psychological ability to feel comfortable in non-humanoid bodies (ie, giant metal space death machines). And your game play is sitting on a bar stool. Sad. More than that, it's the small thinking of small people.


Since capusleers are no longer bound by the limitations, or even the very form of human flesh, how about this as an example. Dinosaurs. Or tanks. Actually, make them dinosaur tanks. Deathmatch dinosaur tanks. That would be a lot more interesting to gamble on than blackjack.

Now stop thinking like planet bound peasants and start thinking like the god machines you are.



Welcome, noob. You don't know what was discussed when it was the time to discuss ways in which CCP could save Incarna. More importantly, you weren't here taking a endless barrage of flak form every troll in the forums for two years, until it was made evident that CCP had abandoned WiS forever.

We don't care about your megalomania. I personally have dreams so big that you'd squint the eyes if you realized what they involve...

But so far, CCP doesn't wants to let us share our CQ with another character, despite how that code exists and was being tested 3 years ago.

Capsuleers as dinosaurs, you say. CCP is not willing not even to release a few clothes...

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1167 - 2015-09-11 09:23:42 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Desslok VonReich wrote:
Wow. Pages of "WiS is good/bad", "Burn Jita was about this/that", and lots of personal attacks.

And not a single post with new, compelling, solid gameplay for WiS. And absolutely nothing that would actually be an immersive capsuleer experience.

Capsuleers have all the promise that trans-humanism can offer and the best you all come up with is sitting at a bar for a drink or playing cards?

You have the ability to transfer consciousness at will, and the psychological ability to feel comfortable in non-humanoid bodies (ie, giant metal space death machines). And your game play is sitting on a bar stool. Sad. More than that, it's the small thinking of small people.


Since capusleers are no longer bound by the limitations, or even the very form of human flesh, how about this as an example. Dinosaurs. Or tanks. Actually, make them dinosaur tanks. Deathmatch dinosaur tanks. That would be a lot more interesting to gamble on than blackjack.

Now stop thinking like planet bound peasants and start thinking like the god machines you are.



Welcome, noob. You don't know what was discussed when it was the time to discuss ways in which CCP could save Incarna. More importantly, you weren't here taking a endless barrage of flak form every troll in the forums for two years, until it was made evident that CCP had abandoned WiS forever.

We don't care about your megalomania. I personally have dreams so big that you'd squint the eyes if you realized what they involve...

But so far, CCP doesn't wants to let us share our CQ with another character, despite how that code exists and was being tested 3 years ago.

Capsuleers as dinosaurs, you say. CCP is not willing not even to release a few clothes...


Quoting for posterity. Loving the lore.
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#1168 - 2015-09-11 09:27:42 UTC
CCP policy is once-burned, twice shy. Hilmar is terrified to let anyone do anything with WiS because the big nasty forum trolls might call him names. He was very clearly traumatized in the aftermath of the riots.


On a side note, work was actually done for Dust that involved casually walking around the mercenary warbarge and going into different areas. Some of this has been shown before, and a lot of it hasn't been. Dust reached the memory limit on PS3 however, so implementing those new areas would involve sacrificing other content. Something not likely to happen.

At the rate things are currently going, however, it is very likely we will see a port to a better system and in the process finally get that content in Dust long before EVE achieves anything comparable. Still a good ways away, but that goal at least seems achievable compared to this one.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#1169 - 2015-09-11 09:50:40 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
CCP policy is once-burned, twice shy. Hilmar is terrified to let anyone do anything with WiS because the big nasty forum trolls might call him names. He was very clearly traumatized in the aftermath of the riots.


On a side note, work was actually done for Dust that involved casually walking around the mercenary warbarge and going into different areas. Some of this has been shown before, and a lot of it hasn't been. Dust reached the memory limit on PS3 however, so implementing those new areas would involve sacrificing other content. Something not likely to happen.

At the rate things are currently going, however, it is very likely we will see a port to a better system and in the process finally get that content in Dust long before EVE achieves anything comparable. Still a good ways away, but that goal at least seems achievable compared to this one.


From what we know through interviews, it is likely that Hilmar was very very disappointed with EVE's failure to carry the weight of WiS. His ideas about VR are quite bold and his best personal chance to forward them was Incarna.

He may now build VR arcades for mobiles and VR shooters for PC, but the real deal for him would be VR human interaction. So maybe that is coming some day, just not in EVE, whose playerbase and realities are not up to Hilmar's dreams.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#1170 - 2015-09-11 10:08:05 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
CCP policy is once-burned, twice shy. Hilmar is terrified to let anyone do anything with WiS because the big nasty forum trolls might call him names. He was very clearly traumatized in the aftermath of the riots.


On a side note, work was actually done for Dust that involved casually walking around the mercenary warbarge and going into different areas. Some of this has been shown before, and a lot of it hasn't been. Dust reached the memory limit on PS3 however, so implementing those new areas would involve sacrificing other content. Something not likely to happen.

At the rate things are currently going, however, it is very likely we will see a port to a better system and in the process finally get that content in Dust long before EVE achieves anything comparable. Still a good ways away, but that goal at least seems achievable compared to this one.


From what we know through interviews, it is likely that Hilmar was very very disappointed with EVE's failure to carry the weight of WiS. His ideas about VR are quite bold and his best personal chance to forward them was Incarna.

He may now build VR arcades for mobiles and VR shooters for PC, but the real deal for him would be VR human interaction. So maybe that is coming some day, just not in EVE, whose playerbase and realities are not up to Hilmar's dreams.



If he couldn't even get WiS to work there is no way in hell he has a proper vision for anything beyond man-in-machine VR.
Avanda Redblade
SecDiv
#1171 - 2015-09-11 11:33:41 UTC
Yes I would like this please.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#1172 - 2015-09-11 11:47:03 UTC
Everyday we be walkin'.


Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#1173 - 2015-09-11 11:59:18 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Everyday we be walkin'.




Oh, but nobody walks in LA.Blink

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#1174 - 2015-09-11 12:09:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
Everyday we be walkin'.




Oh, but nobody walks in LA.Blink

My characters enjoy walking in stations all the time. Host friends, socialise, drink, enjoy dinners. You name it.

Nothing quite like coffee with friends after dunking that T3 fleet or ganking some caps.

Four channels alone dedicated to our family's palatial Amarr quarters home-away-from-home.

Would be nice though if more of it could be seen and shared beyond imagination and an MOTD.

But meanwhile there's no salt ... only suga.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#1175 - 2015-09-11 16:16:51 UTC
If I have 3 prostitutes, I would like to have a brothel to use them like they are supposed to.

Witcher 3 have them, why we cant?

And think about multiplayer options.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#1176 - 2015-09-11 21:28:50 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
If I have 3 prostitutes, I would like to have a brothel to use them like they are supposed to.

Witcher 3 have them, why we cant?

And think about multiplayer options.

I prefer real prostitutes to cheap porn sold as "content"

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#1177 - 2015-09-12 18:09:02 UTC
I wanted to open a bar in Amamake and name it "Amagankme Bar" ... now I will never be able to fulfill that dream.

Maybe we'll get a VR character-posing tool ... add some music and alcohol ...

In the mean time I hope Legion doesn't bite the Dust Big smile

Don't anger the forum gods.

ISD Buldath:

> I Saw, I came, I Frowned, I locked, I posted, and I left.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#1178 - 2015-09-12 18:12:33 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
CCP policy is once-burned, twice shy. Hilmar is terrified to let anyone do anything with WiS because the big nasty forum trolls might call him names. He was very clearly traumatized in the aftermath of the riots.

Funnily enough, the riots weren't even really about WiS.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#1179 - 2015-09-12 18:25:15 UTC
try p0rnhub, its much more staisfying ;)

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1180 - 2015-09-12 18:49:40 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
try p0rnhub, its much more staisfying ;)


You are thinking lets troll its more funny than the topic? some people want answer not troll if you have nothing to say then trolling stfu and let those people talk. Sick of those kind of people posting this nonsense every time just for stupid thumbs up.


DEV remove my post and that post. Thank you.