EVE General Discussion

Well you have those games to play, don't you?! Why does EVE need to become like all those? Why cant EVE just be EVE? And all the other ones like WoW, and LoL, and SL, and SC, why can't they be just what they are? Like SWG, they wanted to just change everything to get new players in, and what happened?

Oh well, doesn't matter, CCP rightfully ditched WiS long ago. If it had been possible, they would have continued development. Oh... that's right, WoD

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You will have to be the example that we follow!

Tidi was released in 2012, dolls in 2011. Time usually goes in just one direction. Even your in development link is after incarna.

Is that your oldest character?

And reading is fundamental. The work that made Time Dilation possible was done during Incarna.



Yes. Does it matter? Someone who goes back and voraciously devours all the technical dev blogs about CARBON out of professional curiosity (I'm a software developer) is going to know more about what happened than someone who just played the game through that period.

Because for many people on this earth, good enough is never good enough lol. You and I both can probably remember many games (and other experiences, like movie sequels) that were originally great that turned into not so great as it's makers tried to force it "higher and higher" rather than trust in natural gradual evolution.

We've seen what happens when CCP bites off more than it can chew. We've seen (multiple times now) what happens when CCP tries to shoehorn 'revolutionary new' things into an EVE that wasn't built for it (which is why we don't have atmospheric flight, avatar play beyond a single room/EVA gameplay or useful DUST/EVE linkage).

And yet the unrealistically (read: delusional) optimistic types keep calling for CCP to over extend again in the non-existent hope that a single success among years of total failure will "draw in new players". I find the whole ting to be incredible.

Station atmosphere not yet decontaminated for capsuleer consumption.

CCP should focus on putting in WiS and cross-platform porting DUST (as Defiance did) with the money they spend on peripheral development, Occulus:Valkyrie is more important right now.

Secondary should be EVE WiS.

Somewhere, during the Zombie development stage, the idea of a Vampire game came up, and it didn't materialise.

It would have been a hard judgement call to turn round and say "ok bloodsuckers you are all leaving EVE to play in this avatar-based game called WoD".

It really would have been easier to say "ok bloodsuckers, soon you'll be able to impress other players with clothes, monocles and chat in stations for 1hr a day - any longer and your clone dies, making you a 20mil permadeath shiptoon"

Rigging skeletons is hard ok. well it might be for a 12 year old game thats cracking at the core.

I love WiS for two reasons:
1. Eve has an incredible character creator, and WiS lets you actually use the avatar, if only a little. I'm honestly surprised that the Character Creator is one of the best I've used, and this game is about spaceships, not bodies.
2. It gives me moments to pretend that this game isn't just a sequel to "Fun With Spreadsheets! Spaceship Edition."

That said, I don't think it needs improvement, but I would support some development effort going into it. I don't know the history beyond what's said in this post, but although freezing everything else seems way over the top, a few devs improving it would be nice.

The game engine is not based on body-body interactions so I would never expect more than a few characters, or in depth or even good animations, but just 2 players sitting down at a table and bringing up another spreadsheet, sorry, window, with a card game would be neat. Really, I would just like to see some things accessible by WiS that aren't available in the Hangar ('lateral benefits' only, of course) like maybe the Character Customization, or even minor new content. Hell, going up to the screen in CQ, and playing that card game remotely without being in the same CQ would be neat. I guess I'd just like a small reason to use it more often.

I wouldn't be too sad if it wasn't there, but I do enjoy using it every once in a while, and I bet there are a lot of players that share this view.

And yes, I would make a one time payment to enable CQ for my character, or even just upgrade/alter it.

Again, tidi and all actual improvements to the game came after WiS, as I said after they quit playing with dolls. And your links only show this to be true, even if you don't understand what you posted, or anyone else has said. And yeah, it matters a lot about you actually being here or not when accusations of "mythologizing" are thrown around. At this point I doubt you were, probably just saw the controversy on some gamers blog and got fascinated with it all. Maybe not so much the game but just a platform to shitpost and do make believe tears all over etc. Well you always have those other EVE-killer™ games you like so much, maybe in time they will be worthy of your trollings there.


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