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CSM FW- Community Representative Discussion

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Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#81 - 2015-02-16 06:38:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Dread Operative
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#82 - 2015-02-16 15:28:40 UTC

To be fair, in this case it's the baby cub in the back smack talking while hiding behind the Lion.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#83 - 2015-02-16 16:50:46 UTC
TBH, i dont think perunga believes his own tripe. Comes across like he is just trying to hide his shame. Though, perhaps he doesnt consciously realise it.
Stalence
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#84 - 2015-02-16 17:12:00 UTC
Josh Mohammed wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=397280

Klapen for CSM! He lives with you, he shoots you, let him represent you!


I listened to his Cap Stable interview... he seems like a likeable guy but I think he has very little idea on what the CSM actually does and what he would be doing while on the council. I suggest he picks the brain of current/former CSM members and then evaluates whether or not this is something he would actually like to do.

From what I heard of his interview he just has a To Do list of things he wants changed and wants to hammer CCP about: nerfing Ishtars, changing the color scheme on the Vindicator, etc etc

Member of #tweetfleet @stalence // Templis CALSF // YouTube Channel

Stalence
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#85 - 2015-02-16 17:22:09 UTC
Veskrashen wrote:
If you're wondering what my "simple solution for FW missions" would be, here's a thought:

1. Fix LP rewards for all FW activities at Tier 2 level.
2. Delete the Tier system.
3. When able, add in 1-2 MWDing scram/web frigates to each L4 mission.

This puts your income at about 150k LP/hour regardless of Tier, removes the penalty for the losing side who's stuck at Tier 1, and massively reduces the amount of folks willing to mad farm missions. It forces folks to use ships that are more survivable, harder to move around the warzone unmolested, and requires higher skill investment (on par with other L4 mission running setups) to complete.



Faction Warfare missions should be catalysts for PVP just like the Complex System. It would be nice if the missions were optimal to be completed in a PVP-fit ship, not a PVE-fit ship. They absolutely need to bridge the gap in FW missions between PVE rats and PVP along the lines of the burner missions when re-balancing them. Otherwise FW missions will remain an LP/ISK printing machine that actually leads to little or no actual PVP content.

And what Mog said... LP tax for corporations. I heard this from a lot of other pilots in the Low Sec round table at FanFest last year and I think it is a must have addition when they rewrite the corporation code base. Corporate LP coffers make it easier to reimburse ship losses for some pilots on strat-ops, help keep our new bros flush in ships, provide an easier means to upgrading systems, and allow corps/alliances to save and pay for larger goals.

Member of #tweetfleet @stalence // Templis CALSF // YouTube Channel

PERUNGA
TeamTama
#86 - 2015-02-16 17:23:28 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
TBH, i dont think perunga believes his own tripe. Comes across like he is just trying to hide his shame. Though, perhaps he doesnt consciously realise it.


What shame would this be you speak of ?

What I think is more shameful is Gallnete militia constant moaning and bleating. And what's worse still Crosi Wesdo is you're own self-righteous image you have. When you contribute nothing to or for the milita.

When I was in Gallente militia I formed fleet's created content for other's. What do or have you ever done ? Aside from naysay and destroy fleet morale. With you're so called expertise.

I think you are living in some sort of fantasy far removed from the real truth. You can hate on me all you like the fact of the matter is. As we both know Gallente militia will always be a small fish in a large pond. One or five years from now it will not change. And if you were truly as good as you consider yourself to be. How come you can do nothing to change that ?

Please continue to be the mouth piece of Gallente militia.


C.Q.B camping since 2014
Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#87 - 2015-02-16 17:25:46 UTC
I'm not sure we need to make "FW missions in PvP boats" so much as capping the insane amount of isk you get from them (annoying as the LP conversion > market mechanics might be). I'm all for making them difficult, but let's not go trying to repurpose them into some sort of "bridge to PvP". Folks who want to fight in FW have no difficulty finding opportunities; missions exist (IMO) to fund that pew. Just need to tone them down so they're not as much of a nullbear draw.

As far as LP taxes go, we'd all be flying blinged out Navy Mega doctrines if we had any kind of LP tax system. That needs a code rewrite from CCP though, which isn't going to happen in the near term unless they revisit the entire LP reward / item redemption / mission system.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."

X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#88 - 2015-02-16 18:13:17 UTC
PERUNGA wrote:
What I think is more shameful is Gallnete militia constant moaning and bleating. And what's worse still Crosi Wesdo is you're own self-righteous image you have. When you contribute nothing to or for the milita.

Team game, man.

What you never saw during your so-called "solo capture of the entire warzone" was guys like Crosi shipping massive numbers of ships to systems on a moment's notice, with Crosi doing a very large share of that effort.

"...self-righteous image....".... I suggest you look in the mirror.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#89 - 2015-02-16 19:11:36 UTC
Not to mention that perunga quit 3 days before the end after the 'battle for haydielies' since ****** FW pvp was well below him, you know, because he fought balex with 3:1 number advantage and killed a guardian before they jumped through the gate and peaced out lol. Though if i recall balex tanked his and another fleet for a good 5 minutes before that guard folded lol.

Its fair to say that if perunga was the only one capable of running the show it wouldve ended there.
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#90 - 2015-02-16 19:12:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Oreb Wing
Major rewrite tweaks and 'overhauls' to anything should be last resort suggestions. If you put the advanced ship restrictions, you don't have to change a thing at all. Stop being afraid of losing the special LP secret basket.

And let's keep the butt hurt out. It's getting way too personal and the dunking is unhealthy when you can't tak it out back and let it go. The only square outcome to a senseless argument, as testosterone sees what more brains could avoid.
Capitol One
Blue Canary
Watch This
#91 - 2015-02-16 19:41:26 UTC
Tyler Burbon for CSM!
ALUCARD 1208
Naga's Be Trippin
#92 - 2015-02-16 20:12:20 UTC
PERUNGA wrote:
[quote=Crosi Wesdo] all militia will always be a small fish in a large pond. One or five years from now it will not change.



Nothing will change because corps come and go as they please its not one big alliance and everyone doesnt get on and never will you see prunga the problem is in ur perception of what militia is. your tryin to make out its one big oiled machine like big pirate alliances like shadow cartel (i think this is your narrative for dunking on the lil guys) But ur right in all 4 factions theres a big entity that dunks on them for content because there too big/lazy to fight each other......

as for fish in ponds instead of looking at militia as a small fish in a big pond.... look at it like everyone else sees it as pirate entitys like snuff and others are big fish in a small pond maybe they should head out to the ocean...

your not in militia nah brah so let it go............


GavinGoodrich
Perkone
Caldari State
#93 - 2015-02-16 20:24:32 UTC
So...at some point...there was a CSM discussion in here...Ugh

Haaaaaalp my head's on fire

PERUNGA
TeamTama
#94 - 2015-02-16 20:43:06 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:


Its fair to say that if perunga was the only one capable of running the show it wouldve ended there.


How fickle you are Crosi Wesdo, its funny how you forget so quickly. Are you so sure I and C.Q.B was not present in the final few days of taking the war zone ?

Let me refresh you're selective memory https://zkillboard.com/kill/40873620/ funny that look's like C.Q.B dreads in Ladistier or am I mistaken ? Once again Crosi Wesdo you are shown to be nothing more. Then a false prophet spouting nonsense.

And in response to X Gallentius, I can recall Alyssa Severasse, Pipen Hawt, and Eleese doing JF runs to feed the Gallente militia. Yet you do not sing their praise's like you do Crosi Wesdo. Why is this may I ask once again selective memory.




C.Q.B camping since 2014 Cool



Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#95 - 2015-02-16 20:53:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
PERUNGA wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:


Its fair to say that if perunga was the only one capable of running the show it wouldve ended there.


How fickle you are Crosi Wesdo, its funny how you forget so quickly. Are you so sure I and C.Q.B was not present in the final few days of taking the war zone ?

Let me refresh you're selective memory https://zkillboard.com/kill/40873620/ funny that look's like C.Q.B dreads in Ladistier or am I mistaken ? Once again Crosi Wesdo you are shown to be nothing more. Then a false prophet spouting nonsense.

And in response to X Gallentius, I can recall Alyssa Severasse, Pipen Hawt, and Eleese doing JF runs to feed the Gallente militia. Yet you do not sing their praise's like you do Crosi Wesdo. Why is this may I ask once again selective memory.




C.Q.B camping since 2014 Cool






yes you hot dropped one carrier in the last 3 days. Some CQB might have been there but that is the extent of your involvement. Killing a carrier that was not interfering with the taking of lad at all.

Another funny memory, you needed 2 midpoints to get there because you had jump cal zero lol.

As for the other logistics guys. If you go off on how you do everything and those guys do nothing im sure XG will point out you are wrong there too
PERUNGA
TeamTama
#96 - 2015-02-16 21:01:21 UTC  |  Edited by: PERUNGA
Indeed you are right I did not have JDC level 1 trained. And yet we still successfully killed said carrier. So you're attempt to troll has failed. Much like you're attempts to justify you're ridiculous statement's during this thread.

And their I was thinking you were Gallente militia number one forum warrior. Instead you have shown yourself to be a patty small minded child. How it must feel to be out manoeuvred at every turn. I would end this thread with are you mad ? But that much is apparent and clear for all to read.



C.Q.B camping since 2014
Zen Lena
#97 - 2015-02-16 21:05:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Lena
I find it funny that all the Perunga haters come out on the forum but they all used to fly under him when he was Gallente. While he may be arrogant (like the rest of you), what he says is true. Guys like Crosi are very toxic and prefer to bash people over the keyboard. There's a reason why he is in his own 1-man corp. Corps like JUST have no FCs nor moons but they seem to love making love to their keyboard on a daily basis. If you thought Perunga was such a scrub FC then why did you fly under him? It's simple; he was still better than what most of the current corps can crank out in terms of fleet command.

It's easy to bash and say that joining SNUFF is the easy route and while they do their fairshare of overwhelming scrubs, they do engage in tougher fights that others won't always commit to.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#98 - 2015-02-16 21:09:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Zen Lena wrote:
I find it funny that all the Perunga haters come out on the forum but they all used to fly under him when he was Gallente. While he may be arrogant (like the rest of you), what he says is true. Guys like Crosi are very toxic and prefer to bash people over the keyboard. There's a reason why he is in his own 1-man corp. Corps like JUST have no FCs nor moons but they seem to love making love to their keyboard on a daily basis. If you thought Perunga was such a scrub FC then why did you fly under him? It's simple; he was still better than what most of the current corps can crank out in terms of fleet command.

It's easy to bash and say that joining SNUFF is the easy route and while they do their fairshare of overwhelming scrubs, they do engage in tougher fights that others won't always commit to.


I like perunga, doesnt stop him being wrong or obnoxious.

As for the carrier kill, my point was that it was inconsequential to the last 3 days of the push and you were otherwise not present.

As for SNUFD, intel has failed them if they end up in a fair fight. Why you think they are NAP with SC and perhaps WAFFLES too?
SNUFD and SC were always frenemies, but at least they used to fight each other lol.

Oh, think i remember why you quit the push before the end. Didnt you ban all minmatar militia from our public comms then rage because you had your server admin revoked? That might have been another time lol.

You mistake all this for argumentation or forum warrioring as you put it. In reality im just reminiscing :) I defend you on comms if you ever come up but i wont ignore that you have no scene of humor about yourself and a crazy ego. Thats part of your charm.
PERUNGA
TeamTama
#99 - 2015-02-16 21:30:33 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Not to mention that perunga quit 3 days before the end after the 'battle for haydielies' since ****** FW pvp was well below him, you know, because he fought balex with 3:1 number advantage and killed a guardian before they jumped through the gate and peaced out lol. Though if i recall balex tanked his and another fleet for a good 5 minutes before that guard folded lol.

Its fair to say that if perunga was the only one capable of running the show it wouldve ended there.



Are you sure you would not like to edit you're post again ?

You're argument was implying I was not present in the final few days of the WZ push. And I have proven you wrong on this matter. So you go to the school yard with smack.


C.Q.B camping since 2014
Catelyn Stoneheart
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#100 - 2015-02-16 21:31:32 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:


As for SNUFD, intel has failed them if they end up in a fair fight. Why you think they are NAP with SC and perhaps WAFFLES too?
SNUFD and SC were always frenemies, but at least they used to fight each other lol.



It's funny how many of the snuff rumors I heard in gall mil that turned out to be just 100% false. It is your intel that has failed you