Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You apply the timer to the player not the drones. Stop Access to the drone Hangar, stop access to Launch command or whatever.

Drones on grid already put more strain on the servers than players (CCP last year after HED) as they are counted as individual objects. Extending objects to the hangar only increases the overall peak load. Currently when you recall a drone it will produce less load than one with timer on it in any capacity.

Which is why you don't go on the drone level and go on the player level. It doesn't change drone behavior at all, and only limits what the player has access to. In this case launching drones. If you initiate the relaunch timer, essentially it is like reloading weapons, you no longer can control that module, in any capacity.

In this case the module is the drone bay, and the ammo is drones.

Remember CCP a year ago cited the same reasoning for the drone bunny nerf. In that thread numerous time it was stated that the size of ship launching drones was irrelevant. Mostly by me. We are now here a year later with the same problem Drones.

Maybe its time CCP actually defined what they see in drones as a weapon system. As it stands you have several ships capable of
Different damage types
Numerous Ranges
Effective against all ship sizes
Ewar options
No Reloading

Its been a over a year and drones are still an issue. It started even before the Halloween War, before the Fountain War. CCP has honestly spent like 2 years balancing drones, and still refuses to just write the code so they can actually fix the problem.

It baffles me how some can sit here and accept yet another CCP can kick.
Another can maybe, but the same road.

Also folks, despite what you think and wanting CCP to make a fix with the least amount of work, remember, this coding is more than a decade old, they seriously need to go in and a major overhaul, otherwise small fixes and patches will add up and eventually it will become so convoluted and inefficient that they would have to redo it all anyways. I don't know about you, but I'd prefer getting that work out of the way now and be done with it for another decade.

Except in this case, the fix does not add a single line of code and does not have to be tested for non intended behaviour because all they need to do is change the scan res data value on the affected drones.

You don't redo a large part of your code-base when what you want to fix can be dealt with by a mere data change...

Doesn't sound like a fix. It sounds like an excuse.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, if it's in Eve it's a bandaid for a larger problem.

Doesn't sound like a fix. It sounds like an excuse.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, if it's in Eve it's a bandaid for a larger problem.

Fighters still do really little to no more damage than sentries against structures. Why are they getting the same treatment, and sentries aren't.

But if you are volunteering, come to my end of town and we will test it out with some other friends, and the guy who was complaining about having the literally "hundreds of fighters being assigned to hundreds of interceptors" and you can tell me if it's "broken" or "fixed"

:)

One of the tweaks we are making in Proteus is to the scan resolution of Fighters and Fighter Bombers, both of which are being reduced quite significantly.

The primary goal of this change is to ensure that rapidly scooping and relaunching fighters and fighter bombers never gives a dps advantage. This practice has not been widespread thus far, but any possible advantage gained this way would both provide imbalanced DPS and cause significant server load so we want to nip it in the bud.

I know that some people who are hoping for a major nerf to assigned fighters will be unhappy that this change will only have a small-moderate effect on that activity. We have been keeping a close eye on the way fighters are used ever since our recent rounds of drone rebalancing and we aren't ruling out any potential future changes at this time. However we are not going to rush into any larger changes to fighter mechanics.

OK we are getting closer to the heart of the matter. There's a partial explanation, but break it down. Fighters still do really little to no more damage than sentries against structures. Why are they getting the same treatment, and sentries aren't. In a capital structure grind supers will use FB's carriers are probably going to drop sentries.

And I don't know who sits at zero on a structure grind either. Anyone who's smart is not going to sit at zero and wait to get counter dropped by PL or goons or whoever.

Reduce scan res, make all drones one animation (instead of 10 drones make them one), delete supers, make it Ishtars Online, I don't really care.

Just give me the REAL scoop, give me the numbers to back that sh!t up, tell me where it's going. Just be freakin honest.

But this specific situation, where scan resolution of two, and two only specific drones, in an extremely limited scenario, seems to be more back burner stuff. There is more important stuff that needs to be addressed in the game. If tears and smug was a power source, there would be no energy crisis.

why wasn't the scan res just...taken away?

Why the arbitrary 90% reduction? Supers have a horrible scan res anyway.