Crime & Punishment

Ehh??? That's a pretty galling claim. Do I think the gankers are bad folks who delight in eliciting tears and rage? Yep. Do I think folks should respond with RL death threats? Nope. And obviously being the cool and collected person that I am, I have certainly never engaged in such churlish behavior. If you want your lies to pass the smell test, it's important to include at least an element of truth in them.

But I notice you are in Brave...so I'll stop wasting my breath. Carry on, sir.

Ok, Kaarous. Lets try this.
In my mind, stereotyping miners as wife beaters and domestic abusers is pretty much the same thing as saying all gankers are sociopaths and bullys.
Would you agree?

Wow!! You being the dedicated forum warrior that you are, I never expected you to bite on that one.
So making jokes about domestic violence is perfectly ok if it's "tongue in cheek".
Your response isnt surprising to anyone who's familiar with your posting history.
Continue keeping it classy Kaarous.

I have no intention of thanking people for being lazy greedy or dumb. I suspect it would come across as sarcastic anyway.

So why arent the players who participate in this explicitly "illegal" activity banned?

Intresting perspective and thought I have also had on many occasions


very cool and its nice to have been informed that my premier white knight is actually a codey...Srt owes me 20 bucks

You've pretty much grouped all of us into one category, like as if shooting a ship in high-sec can only be done for two motivations: profit or griefing.

I can safely say I have never extracted a tear before in-game from an innocent victim. If they show good sportsmanship I salute them, if they show confusion I help them. I don't gank as often as most, but when I have it was purely for fun. I enjoy blowing up the ships and I enjoy dealing with how people form up to defend against me.

Is it your opinion that the above makes me a "bad" person?
I'd also like to know how you'd react if someone warped into your mission pocket and claimed you had a mental disorder for running missions.

I won't even touch on the "ganking contributes nothing to the game" part of your post, you know that's not true.

Okay wow. It was Xmas day here in the states so I didn’t turn on my computer until now. I had originally planned to do a last blog post this weekend, but I’d rather take care of what I have to say here and address a few things.

FIRST, For all the tin foil hatters etc. No.. I wasn’t a code spy or any nonsense and I want everyone who reads this to understand something. Eve is a game where you can do ANYTHING you want within the parameters of game mechanics ofc. I played Anti-Code for almost a year. At the very heart of the entire matter it’s simply a CHOICE. I decided to do something else. I JOINED CODE.

Now those of you out there asking “if you wanted to do something else, why not just go to null or wh or whatever. Why join the “enemy”? Here’s my answer and I’ll try and refrain from too much finger pointing.

Over the past year I made friends on both sides. Both AG and CODE have their respective idiots. It’s to be expected, but I found more pilots on CODES side I agreed with and enjoyed playing with. I also had a huge amount of frustration from my role in AG and I’ll give you an example that stands out in my mind. Please note this took place BEFORE ppl like Jenn and Sarah and others started ganking CODE bumpers.

I discovered through various channels that Aria Stane was running supplies for CODE when Burn Aufay was taking place and I attempted to get a fleet together to take out the supply freighter Aria was flying. All of my attempts were met with “We Don’t Gank”. A lot of my attempts were met with those kinds of results so imagine how thrilled I am on my second night of being in CODE when I brought up ganking a White Knight Navy Cane and instantly over comm’s I am told how many Cats we would need and how many pilots are available. I almost wet myself in PURE JOY.

As for Ast’s accusations at me, I’ll say this for the record. I respect Ast for creating Anti-Ganking and creating his site offering ECM fits etc. I wish he did a bit more in game by taking a stance but in the end it’s his choice how he plays. There was frustration on my end with him as I was out hunting and trying to do something about CODE day in and day out and what I saw him doing was working on getting the AG Channel put on Eve Live and testing how many Mining Barges he could run with ISOBOXER.

As for that person Ast mentioned in his post above that has been sending mails? I know who he means. Industrial Mining is a longtime friend of mine and no I don’t agree with what Indy has been doing by sending mails to Ast. But I still stand by Indy’s side for the ORIGINAL incident which angered Indy. That entire mess started because Indy was simply trying to teach and instruct people in AG and he was attacked and kicked for it. I wish I had been able to get involved before Indy fired off his mails as it would have saved everyone a lot of headaches.

I never said it was ONLY the toxicity in AG that bothered me. Yes there are good people in AG who try and MOD the toxicity of some players. I’ve corrected ppl and I’ve seen Jenn and Sarah and others doing the same day in and day out. I don’t think there is an easy answer to that problem.

My purpose in CODE? As I’ve said before I’ve played since 07. As a Noob back in 07 I was podded in Tama and raged at the guy who did it. I was then kicked from corp as the guy I raged at decced the corp I was in. I learned my lesson. I was then taken in by a group of PVPER's and taught things about the game I never knew existed. In All honesty I wish I could go back and thank the guy who podded me as I AFK autopiloted to a gate. I haven’t used Autopilot since that day and I got a better understanding of how the game is played. I hope to pass along what I learned. Its how i was taught to play.

Scott Bacon said he agreed with what I originally said about playing the game however I wanted. What I have seen as an Anti-Ganker has bothered me, I still don’t understand why someone would log in to play a game and then walk away from their computer for hours while the game is running. If they can’t be bothered to be at their keyboard why should they care if their ship explodes? For me that just makes them a target as I am playing the GAME and they are not. Play any way you want, but make sure you’re at your keyboard and actually PLAYING. Also, try something different once in a while, Eve is a vast universe. Had I never been podded as a noob I would probably still be running missions and never seen the REAL side of eve and playing with others.

Veers (as usual) had to bray in with how I only saved 1% of freighters. You can’t save people who are AFK. 1% is still a hellva lot more than Veers has ever done.

Lastly I will say this, the one person in AG I’m very disappointed with is Kalynn. In Kalynn’s last mail to me were threats of petitions if I should respond (which I did ONCE and had to do through a friend)to her while she has sent me mail after mail attacking my character and the personal loss I suffered 6 months ago. I say this to you again Kalynn. As your friend I would have supported however you want to play EVE and wished you luck. Your actions towards me since I joined CODE only add to the toxicity and vile I’ve seen come from certain people in the AG community.

To those who have convo’d or mailed me from both sides and wished me luck, I say thank you. It’s you guys I want to play EVE with.

Happy Holidays Folks
GV

My response to the escalation of highsec ganking has been to take my lazy, greedy and dumb miner in a fail-fit retriever to the higher reaches of highsec. It now takes me longer to get replacement ships for forays into lowsec providing content for pirates. On the plus side since I don't have to worry about rats I can spend more time afk or in corp chat. Also im losing ships at a slower rate so my time spent mining is about the same. I do feel somewhat guilty about stripping belts that should be the province of new players but console myself that it is just a consequence of emergent game play and content generation in high sec. To Gorila , I hope you enjoy your FUN and LAUGHs which are coming at the expense of other players' enjoyment of Eve. I just realised I am typing this while the television is on. I better get back to having my eyes glued to the tv screen because heaven forbid that anyone should have a television on but not be watching it constantly.

I would like to welcome Gorilla Vengaza to the CODE family. He was a good enemy and will be a fine addition to the cause. That said, I would like to dedicate a song to my 2 best girls in eve who don't seem to be talking to me anymore...

♥ Sarah Flynt and Jenn Marland ♥