Crime & Punishment

Hello!
I’m going to take a page from James book and I warn ppl, this post may be a bit longer than what your accustomed to from me. I’ve honestly been on the fence the past couple of months about joining CODE and here is why.

I started playing EVE back in 07 and I was raised from a noob by a group of low sec and null PVPERS. I’ve left the game at different times due to RL issues but I’ve always come back. EVE is a hard mistress to walk away from. A year and a half ago I saw people talking about CODE the way they used to talk about GOONS. I sat back and observed and I couldn’t understand why most people weren’t fighting back. I gathered a group of likeminded pilots such as BlackHole Kelly and Ynmir and formed the New Disorder.

I saw an opportunity to play James 315 opposite albeit on a smaller scale. I started the blog and I had FUN doing it. Highsec became fun were it only used to be a place I came to grind missions for sec status and isk and supplies for playing in low and null. I honestly saw an opportunity where I hoped to form a big enough resistance to give CODE someone to fight. What I found out is organizing miners into PVPERS is like herding cats into a straight line. It’s VERY difficult.

I had a few successes. One of my proudest moments is when a miner who had been playing eve for years convo’d me and I talked him into bringing out an ECM boat and fighting CODE. He admitted to me later it was the most fun he had ever had in EVE.

At my core I’ve often been conflicted as some of CODES ideals I believe in. I haven’t enjoyed saving AFK players who couldn’t be bothered to be at their keyboards. I’ve never understood why someone would want to play a game and not be actively engaged in PLAYING. I honestly despise mining and find it boring as all hell. The few times I’ve mined I’ve been at my keyboard hoping I would get ganked as I would have someone to fight.

Lately my biggest Issue has been the campaign of RL death threats and accusing people of being sociopaths and psychopaths because of how they play a GAME. It’s something I do NOT agree with and have actively campaigned against since day one. It’s a hate campaign Veers is very vocal about and sadly his sentiments have carried over to the AG channels and I’ve seen many embrace it. I’ve sat back and watched the hate and I do NOT approve. I do want to say there ARE some good people in Antiganking regardless of the others and if my actions hurt those people I do apologize.

What I have found from the beginning is I’ve had more in common with CODE than anyone in AG. I can honestly say from experience is I’ve enjoyed my interactions with CODE more than many of my interactions with AG. I have felt many in CODE GET the game and what it means to play it. From 07 I have always understood that no one is safe in the EVE universe and nor should they ever be “SAFE”. You should also have FUN and be laughing when you play a game. Not many laugh in AG from my experiences there are MANY in CODE who do laugh and have FUN.

I’ve seen person after person claim to be the “normal players” while making death threats and other crap at CODE member’s children. To me there is a HUGE difference in telling someone you’re going to hunt them down and kill them INGAME as opposed to making threats to key someone’s car or assault their children in RL. If that’s “Normal” I’d rather be a “psychopath” and play with CODE.

With that said I now refer to a saying my new CEO is known for...

THE CODE ALWAYS WINS!!! ALWAYS!

Sincerely,
Gorila Vengaza

Wait you are saying Veers made you do this?

muahuahuahua

Is it a life thread when i say that you are emotionally unsettled?

Congrats Gorila. It's good to see the hate and discourse toward others has finally turned you from them. For too long the hatred against others has poisoned the AG community. Though I doubt it will have a lasting effect on them, it is a good message to them that it is time to change their ways. There's nothing wrong with being an "opposing force" against Code or any other entity in Eve, that's all part of the game. The problem is the hatred that has been brewing over actions in a game. Veers is a poison to any "cause" he joins. Code are not "bad people" as rhetoric has labeled them. They are all quite nice people who have a passion for playing a game to the fullest extent. Code is the very core of what Eve is all about..emergent gameplay and player created content and stroyline. Without this, Eve would be as dull as other games.

Again, it's good to see you have "seen the light" per se. You will find Code are a great group of people (which I know you already know) and some of the best people to fly with in Eve. I salute you.

Welcome to the light VG! You were always a noble adversary and now I look forward to having you as a corpie!

I understand exactly what you mean when you speak of the toxicity in AG. I was ganking for a good while before i joined CODE. I hung in the AG channels for intel and just couldn't stand the petty bitterness and anger (not to mention anyone that takes Veers seriously has really questionable judgement). On the other hand the "bad guys" in minerbuming were fun and have made great comrades.

Like you I can say that AG recruited me into CODE.

Let's gank some freighters!

Yar!

Still giggling...

So you adopted the flawed thoughts of code.

In all EvE codies get the most hate and deathreats.
And its all the fault of the others and NOT the codies, cause codies do not harm the other players...

Where you ever real or always a stealth code puppet?

Gorila

edit.retracted

after spending a few hrs in local with code, I refuse to participate in any code related thread.

I would have to argue that it isn't the New Order that has demoralized being the "good guy", but rather the people who would benefit from the actions of said "good guy".

Hmmm Im emotionally unstable because i want to have fun while playing a game?

I have a question for you..

Could I interest you in buying a mining permit? they are only 10 mill ISK a year.

Color me completely unsurprised. Gorila is the perfect example of why CODE correctly claims that when they get PvE players to engage in PvP in highsec, even as whiteknights, CODE is winning. Eventually these folks realize that the game is completely stacked in favor of the gankers, and cast their lot with them. Would not surprise me if James 315 started out as a highsec miner. Gorila always belonged in CODE, and this just completes his journey to the dark side, where he belongs.

As far as "hate campaigns" or other such nonsense...try not to let the facts interfere with your conspiracy theories. CODE leader James 315 forecefully defended the repugnant bonus rooms and concomitant real life harassment in a 16 page essay at themittani.com. http://www.themittani.com/features/new-teamspeak-harassment-policy

The leader of CODE proudly defended this pathetic events, which featured the inducement of anger, humiliation, panic attacks, and a whole host of other vile things. CODE is all about using the game to cause other players real life emotional harm. That's morally wrong, it's despicable, and no one with a shred of decency or empathy for other human beings can support such endeavors. CODE uses spaceship combat as a means of eliciting the death threats and rage, which they then post on minerbumping.com to cause maximum humiliation. It's not about the game, it's all about using the game to relentlessly harass and mock others who have a different playstyle. And pointing out that the bonus rooms and other such things are perfect examples of sociopathic behavior is simply stating a factual truth.

As far as "not being safe" or "having fun," consider the real life equivalent of CODE. Someone goes to a beach and spends hours constructing a beautiful sandcastle. A second person arrives and promptly destroys said sandcastle to elicit rage and tears. Guy 2 is having a lot more fun, and demonstrating that sand on the beach is a public good that cannot be acquired. So what? Guy 2 is still a miserable person with no sense of morality or decency. That you have the right to do something does not make it the right thing to do.

I would rather cast my lot with those who play the game to find constructive enjoyment in it, and not simply take pleasure from the rage and tears of others. Highsec suicide ganking contributes virtually nothing to the game. Enough said.

Note...non-consensual PvP is not banned in RL. The police will not arrest you for knocking over someone else's sandcastle. The police will not arrest you for cutting in line in the supermarket. The police will not arrest you for routinely lying to friends and family. Morality does not depend on the physical impossibility of doing something....it depends on the CHOICES you make and your attempt to do the right thing.