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Cloaked "Unidentified Structure" mystery

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Siegfried Tahl
STCorp
#21 - 2014-12-09 15:35:28 UTC
Here we did a pretty big research. It was true for Sisi though, didnt log in on TQ yet.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#22 - 2014-12-09 16:25:54 UTC
Irusan Ramza wrote:
There is a similar thread that I found here (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5286195) in case we find out anything different.

-Iru

That's in the In-character roleplaying forum, though, so different enough from this thread.

There sure does seem to be quite a bit going on with the eve backstory at the moment.

Therea, SoE activities
these Unidentified Structures everywhere
sleeper sites and drones in k-space
the bright object visible from all K-Space systems.

I am eager to see CCP hurrying up and making at least some of it actually lead somewhere.
I wonder if FW vs sleepers is a possibility? I was thinking maybe the new WH systems would be in UAA, an/or Jove space, but it seems not. Perhaps those had their gates removed in preparation for us being able to build our own gates.

On a side note, if anyone stumbles across one of these, can you make a note of it HERE
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-12-09 16:27:18 UTC  |  Edited by: okst666
Siegfried Tahl wrote:
Here we did a pretty big research. It was true for Sisi though, didnt log in on TQ yet.



while patching I watched the new features trailer...

THIS is not what we were observing on Sisi

http://i.imgur.com/PVXUU92.png?1

*HYPE*


and btw... never noticed a station shaped like this..

http://imgur.com/DRee6Wf *



* Apparently I have not seen a caldari station for a long time.

[X] < Nail here for new monitor

Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#24 - 2014-12-09 16:30:06 UTC
You know you can shoot those sleepers, right?

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-12-09 16:34:30 UTC
Ka'Narlist wrote:
PlayerNikita wrote:
Good thing i was cloaked myself...

But you weren't. On the second screenshot your cloak is not active. So this leads me to the only logical conclusion that you are a secret rogue drone agent, trying to mislead us here Ugh


The Thick Plottens! Shocked

I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.

Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#26 - 2014-12-09 16:41:40 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
You know you can shoot those sleepers, right?

They don't really do anything if you do, and the wreck only yields metal scraps when you salvage.

very disappointing. I was hoping for some blue loot, and/or sleeper salvage.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#27 - 2014-12-09 16:57:57 UTC
A Jovian outpost and Sleeper drones working in tandem- this has been at the forefront of my mind for a WHILE Smile
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#28 - 2014-12-09 16:59:26 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Soldarius wrote:
You know you can shoot those sleepers, right?

They don't really do anything if you do, and the wreck only yields metal scraps when you salvage.

very disappointing. I was hoping for some blue loot, and/or sleeper salvage.

I don't think you should be attacking them- I want to know what they're up to and probably help them if I can [:d]
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#29 - 2014-12-09 17:04:51 UTC
Well, I looked at one of those structures and if you wiggle the camera at the right angle against a darkish background you can make out the shape of it. It's some kind of crystal stalactite, cracked into several pieces, not some kind of station.

It makes cloaking noises when you get close to it and the lightning streaks going over it indicate a failing cloaking device, similar to what happened to the sleeper caches.

So my guess the sleepers are checking in on old stuff they had around and see what's still good and what got spoiled.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#30 - 2014-12-09 17:30:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Xindi Kraid
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Soldarius wrote:
You know you can shoot those sleepers, right?

They don't really do anything if you do, and the wreck only yields metal scraps when you salvage.

very disappointing. I was hoping for some blue loot, and/or sleeper salvage.

I don't think you should be attacking them- I want to know what they're up to and probably help them if I can [:d]


I I also scanned them. Showed nothing.

So nondestructive testing followed by destructive testing. Seems legit to me.

Now what would be cool is if they were warping back to sleeper caches and I could somehow follow them there.
Dust Angel
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#31 - 2014-12-09 18:04:08 UTC
Christopher AET wrote:
Ka'Narlist wrote:
PlayerNikita wrote:
Good thing i was cloaked myself...

But you weren't. On the second screenshot your cloak is not active. So this leads me to the only logical conclusion that you are a secret rogue drone agent, trying to mislead us here Ugh


The Thick Plottens! Shocked


I am thickening. Big smile
PlayerNikita
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-12-09 18:19:52 UTC
Update on sleepers: As other people have stated, they also roam around belts and stargates. Only they scan random wrecks AND stargates themselves! When they do so, the stargate emmits strange blue glows.

Screens:

http://i.imgur.com/TqNe0yA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sHdAQ2f.jpg
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#33 - 2014-12-09 18:23:49 UTC
Shot at the "structure" a lot. Guns hit but damage = 0. Drones don't appear to actually shoot at it. No hacking modules have any effect (up to and including T2 relic and data). The sleeper rats are very killable but drop no loot and the salvage is worthless.

That's all I've seen so far.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson

Raydn James
Coven.
#34 - 2014-12-09 18:31:31 UTC
PlayerNikita wrote:
Update on sleepers: As other people have stated, they also roam around belts and stargates. Only they scan random wrecks AND stargates themselves! When they do so, the stargate emmits strange blue glows.

Screens:

http://i.imgur.com/TqNe0yA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sHdAQ2f.jpg


Could the sleepers be trying to figure out how to shut down the gates?

Could be how CCP plans to introduce player built gates. (if that's ever been in the works, can't remember)
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#35 - 2014-12-09 18:39:45 UTC
ISD Ezwal wrote:
The plot thickens....Cool


Hopefully it was done with a roux and not with cornstarch. Id hate for the plot to develop that weird skin on top when it cools.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Lando Tarsadan
Doomheim
#36 - 2014-12-09 19:02:46 UTC
has anyone tried to take the gate when it fllashes the blue colour ?
PlayerNikita
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-12-09 19:15:13 UTC
Lando Tarsadan wrote:
has anyone tried to take the gate when it fllashes the blue colour ?


I did, nothing bad happened, just usual jump.
Raydn James
Coven.
#38 - 2014-12-09 19:46:10 UTC
Over on Dust, we have some structures that look similar to what I can see from the pics here.
I wonder if the sleepers are looking for what we have on the planets
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#39 - 2014-12-09 19:52:22 UTC
Why are the Seekers scanning wrecks, stargates and structures of technology that is so far behind their own?

Are the Circadian Sleepers the tech that the Tactical Destroyers are based on?

WHEN CAN I TAME A SLEEPER AS A PET/WINGMAN?!?!?!?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Siegfried Tahl
STCorp
#40 - 2014-12-09 20:04:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Siegfried Tahl
What we know about Unidentified Structure and Circadian Seeker Sleepers:

The Structure.
  • It is an LCO so you can remote shield rep it, cap recharge, web, scram, jam, dampen... but to no effect, same as most other LCOs
  • Cant use data/relic, salvager, miners, ice/gas harvester, as those require a specific type of target an asteroid, a wreck, a can etc.
  • Ship scan, cargo scan, survey scan shows empty, just as other LCOs.
It seems completly passive. Dont think we can decloak it... yet

The Sleeper.
  • Its an 'enemy' NPC, so you can not use beneficial effects on it such as shield rep or recharge.
  • You can web and scram it, think other e-war works too.
  • Can not hack it.
  • Cargo and ship scanners show its empty with no modules, 725/725 GJ.
  • Being scanned with blue sleeper loot in cargo does nothing.
  • It doesnt mind rogue drones, incursion Sanshas or other hostile NPCs around.
  • It has 2 of what looks like heavy launchers, but I think those are its scanning beam devices. Never seen more than 2 beams shot from the same sleeper.
  • Beams are non-targeted, it does not lock target to scan it.
  • They dont shoot back.
  • Leave a wreck. Salvage only yields Metal Scrap.

The most interesting thing is when it scans you with its non-targeted beam and you cloak, it hangs up. Stops scanning, stops orbiting, shuts engines down. Stays that way for a minute or more. It may be a bug and I reported it. But maybe its when you have to do something interesting with it.

On Sisi they did like Custom Offices more at first, but now they seem to be scanning gates, stations, asteroids in belts, and all other objects evenly.

At Unidentified Stucture site, they used to like to scan the beacon alot. But now they sometimes barely land in the site and warp away to a random object.