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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#141 - 2014-11-23 11:48:08 UTC
The Ishkur is the ship I learned to pew pew in. I had been learning lowsec PVP for less than a month when I used it in this fight, a fight that was for me a milestone, and for everyone involved, an absolute blast. Literally.

#savethelance #heilsansha

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#142 - 2014-11-23 11:57:12 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The Ishkur is the ship I learned to pew pew in. I had been learning lowsec PVP for less than a month when I used it in this fight, a fight that was for me a milestone, and for everyone involved, an absolute blast. Literally.

#savethelance #heilsansha



That is an excellent video

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#143 - 2014-11-23 12:04:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Mharius Skjem wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mharius Skjem wrote:
The new models are just more Sci Fi.


More 'sci fi'? What does that even mean? Define 'sci fi' please. Is Serenity not sci fi? Or maybe it's a western... or maybe it's both. There's no rule defining what science fiction is and is not beyond a requirement for imagination, not unlike fantasy. It certainly has nothing to do with aesthetics. The new model is not 'more sci fi' at all, because both the new and old are equal parts the result of a science fiction creation.



I prefer my spaceships to look more "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" than "sci fi"..... that's why I've developed a certain affection for Black Viking (Minmatar) ships, lately.....



I just take the view that give it a week or two and you guys will have forgotten that the lance was even there.

On balance Eve is a better game today than it was last year and certainly better than it was five years ago. You've got to trust the devs to do the right thing.



First of all, not bloody likely. Iconography, it's a thing. Look it up. Removing the lance from this ship would be like replacing the forward booms on the Megathron with lampshades (INB4 ilovelamp).

As for balance, aesthetics have nothing to do with balance. We have to trust the devs to do the right thing? No we don't, just because it's a better game now doesn't mean they're not prone to making mistakes. In your sig you claim you're a bittervet but if you were, you would know this already.

But this has nothing to do with that. Will we still play without the lance? Of course we will. This is, bottom line, about the icon that little ship is and the special place it has in the hearts of those that have flown it, and/or died to it, or just care in general.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mag's
Azn Empire
#144 - 2014-11-23 12:59:06 UTC
#savethelance

#changethehoundbacktothemaulashull

#ilovelampsbutnotonmegatrons

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#145 - 2014-11-23 14:07:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mharius Skjem
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mharius Skjem wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mharius Skjem wrote:
The new models are just more Sci Fi.


More 'sci fi'? What does that even mean? Define 'sci fi' please. Is Serenity not sci fi? Or maybe it's a western... or maybe it's both. There's no rule defining what science fiction is and is not beyond a requirement for imagination, not unlike fantasy. It certainly has nothing to do with aesthetics. The new model is not 'more sci fi' at all, because both the new and old are equal parts the result of a science fiction creation.



I prefer my spaceships to look more "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" than "sci fi"..... that's why I've developed a certain affection for Black Viking (Minmatar) ships, lately.....



I just take the view that give it a week or two and you guys will have forgotten that the lance was even there.

On balance Eve is a better game today than it was last year and certainly better than it was five years ago. You've got to trust the devs to do the right thing.



First of all, not bloody likely. Iconography, it's a thing. Look it up. Removing the lance from this ship would be like replacing the forward booms on the Megathron with lampshades (INB4 ilovelamp).

As for balance, aesthetics have nothing to do with balance. We have to trust the devs to do the right thing? No we don't, just because it's a better game now doesn't mean they're not prone to making mistakes. In your sig you claim you're a bittervet but if you were, you would know this already.

But this has nothing to do with that. Will we still play without the lance? Of course we will. This is, bottom line, about the icon that little ship is and the special place it has in the hearts of those that have flown it, and/or died to it, or just care in general.



Of course I was a bitter vet. Was I pissed at the Heavy Missile nerf, and what they did to my beautiful drake. What about rapid heavies and the treatment they gave rapid lights. I pissed away 5.5 million sp on missile skills that became useless overnight. On balance though, is the game better as a result.

Begrudgingly I say yes. I really hate Fozzie and Rise now I've just had to say that lol..


As i mentioned earlier, how about campaigning to keep all models of a given ship class. An otherwise easy solution that satisfies everyone.

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2014-11-23 16:00:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Mharius Skjem wrote:

I just take the view that give it a week or two and you guys will have forgotten that the lance was even there.



Explain why I never forgot the oldschool Cop Comet and kept begging for its return until they finally brought it back. Or why I'm still upset that the Nighthawk isn't a Ferox hull. Or why I still miss the Gallente Pleasure Hub, and CCP employees and GM's with Jovian toons. Or Supercarriers being called "Motherships" (I still occasionally use the class's old nickname of "Mom", btw).
Also, it's been well over a month since they changed the Moa, and I still want the old one back (or at least a smoothed-out version of the old one).
We're not kindergarteners with short memories and no sense of nostalgia. We're grown-ups that have formed an attachment to certain things because they're iconic.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#147 - 2014-11-23 16:07:00 UTC
Mharius Skjem wrote:

pissed at the Heavy Missile nerf, and what they did to my beautiful drake. What about rapid heavies and the treatment they gave rapid lights. I pissed away 5.5 million sp on missile skills that became useless overnight. On balance though, is the game better as a result.



Oh, there's your problem. You're a Drake pilot. Blokes who fly Drakes are typically oblivious to reality.
And HML's aren't useless. You just have to fit the right rigs.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#148 - 2014-11-23 18:52:09 UTC
If I flew gallente I'd be so mad about the lance thing but I don't so it's just like "ha bow y'alls assault frigs loom dumb".
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#149 - 2014-11-23 20:22:01 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Mharius Skjem wrote:

pissed at the Heavy Missile nerf, and what they did to my beautiful drake. What about rapid heavies and the treatment they gave rapid lights. I pissed away 5.5 million sp on missile skills that became useless overnight. On balance though, is the game better as a result.



Oh, there's your problem. You're a Drake pilot. Blokes who fly Drakes are typically oblivious to reality.
And HML's aren't useless. You just have to fit the right rigs.


I'm not a drake pilot now am I. This is a new toon.

I had to fly it as at the time it was a doctrine ship in Fatal Ascension.

Minmatar for the win btw.

before I go, well done on lecturing me about reality in a video game when you're the one whose upset that his beloved pixels are being rearranged.

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#150 - 2014-11-25 13:38:07 UTC
I'd be okay with a compromise. Perhaps making the lance extend once combat is initiated? Slowly, of course. It would keep in the true spirit of what the hull is currently doing.
I know, I'm a filthy human being, but I'm comfortable with that. My ishkur's lance is usually covered in blood and pod goo, and I'm not ashamed of it.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Lachesiss
Perkone
Caldari State
#151 - 2014-11-25 13:50:46 UTC
Save the lance FFS

How can I instigate jousting speed now Sad

On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#152 - 2014-11-25 14:10:17 UTC
I still have my old ostrich riding crop. Granted it's been used for other purposes, but still.
The pokey thing is holey. The pokey thing is right. Don't take away, plzkthx?

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Erim Solfara
House of Solfara
#153 - 2014-11-25 23:19:08 UTC
Will SOMEONE, please post a ******* PICTURE?!
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2014-11-26 09:29:54 UTC
Erim Solfara wrote:
Will SOMEONE, please post a ******* PICTURE?!



Log onto SiSi > Buy Incursus > Weep, bitterly.

#savethelance

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#155 - 2014-11-26 09:30:57 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I still have my old ostrich riding crop. Granted it's been used for other purposes, but still.
The pokey thing is holey. The pokey thing is right. Don't take away, plzkthx?



I am curiously aroused.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#156 - 2014-11-26 13:03:51 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I still have my old ostrich riding crop. Granted it's been used for other purposes, but still.
The pokey thing is holey. The pokey thing is right. Don't take away, plzkthx?



I am curiously aroused.



TMILOL

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#157 - 2014-11-26 13:38:42 UTC
You there. Your sig is good, but it's missing the implied 'OR YOU'LL GO BLIND!'
And don't worry Jarod, it's natural.
Experimenting with a defenseless fedo while smashed out of your mind, not so natural. I'm sure it will recover in time... right?
Til then, any advice on how to get the damned thing out from under my bunk?

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#158 - 2014-11-26 14:53:01 UTC
One shudders at the thought of how CCP might change the Thorax now....



#savethelance #DontSnipTheShip

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#159 - 2014-11-26 14:57:30 UTC
I'm sure they'd start by removing it's gag reflex.

I just realized that i'm an awful person.

And i'm strangely comfortable with that.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#160 - 2014-12-02 01:46:16 UTC
The very name Gallente, Gallant, it sounds like it should have a lance... and I say also +10 stabbing damage with 3x impact critical damage as well, and the T2 should have special attacks such as unholy or flaming dmg also.

SAVE THE LANCE!