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Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#981 - 2015-10-05 18:24:12 UTC
motie one wrote:
Of course, we will never see how many trusting Patients, are left "sick broken husks." That's the problem with People Pretending to be Doctors, or in this case Economists. There is always someone who falls for a credible sounding imposter.

Ah well, shame to pop someone's illusions but it's for the best.



What are your qualifications?
motie one
Secret Passage
#982 - 2015-10-05 20:40:03 UTC  |  Edited by: motie one
Bound by an binding NDA.
So not able to provide more details, let's just say, In the financial sector, but my name is public, so can't say any more.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#983 - 2015-10-05 20:43:57 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
1,174 Sell / 1,126 Buy atm

The combination of the CCP intervention at the end of last week and the ongoing PLEX sale appears to be having some effect. We've seen this before though and it will only be temporary.

I've already called the current stable price of plex at ~1.1B and I expect to see that rise to ~1.2B once these downward pressures have passed. It will be interesting to see if it falls bellow 1.1B this week, it will be a buying opportunity if it does.

1,129 Sell / 1,104 Buy atm

PLEX sale still going strong. Looking good to dip bellow 1.1B during the next few days. As with all previous PLEX sales, the price will bounce back up as soon as the sale is over, so when it goes below 1.1B you should be buying ready to cash in post sale.

1,110 Sell / 1,080 Buy atm

PLEX sale still going. Buy, buy, buy!

1,112 Sell / 1,096 Buy atm

1,144 Sell / 1,135 Buy atm

PLEX sale over. Last chance to buy low.

I'm personally switching back from flipping to speculating now.


And prices are rebounding. What a shock. Roll

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

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Gadolf Agalder
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#984 - 2015-10-05 22:31:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadolf Agalder
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
...
I have to go buy a 1.89 GHz (instead of the required 2.0 Ghz) computer for $89 which will let me run the EVE Market with reduced graphic settings to speed up performance.

I also forgot to verify if I could have sold the PLEx to a buyer 2 jumps away from the station they were offered at because,
I have the trade skills to do it.
Most likely though, for PLEx , they would have required to be sold in the Station making the offer to buy itself, and the range set at Station.

Just because I have the skills to sell in Region doesn't mean that it's not possible for those posting and paying for Buy Order offers to make it impossible for me to sell at a distance...

Uploads:
(All 3) http://imgur.com/a/kPCld

http://imgur.com/hyn1YPd
2015.10.04.16.47.26p
Sell Items (1) - Jita IV Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant
30 Day Pilot's Licen... 2
1145009000.99
2,290,018,001.98) ISK -0.6%
[Immediate V]
129/129 remaining market orders
Broker's fee (0.0%) 0.00 ISK
Sales tax (0.75%) 17,175,135.01 ISK
2,272,842,866.97 ISK

http://imgur.com/YvXtPJA
2015.10.04.16.47.38p
Sell Items (1) - Jita IV Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant
30 Day Pilot's Licen... 1
1,145,004,000.00 ISK -0.6%
[Immediate V]
129/129 remaining market orders
Broker's fee (0.0%) 0.00 ISK
Sales tax (0.75%) 8,587,530.00 ISK
1,136,416,470.00 ISK

http://imgur.com/PjQdiS1
2015.10.04.16.47.47p
Wallet
Balance 9,488,411,315 ISK


I got a 2.4 GHz + something Dual Core system with 1.85 GB usable RAM of 2.00 GB Ram.
Also, it is apparently compatible with Battlestar Galactica Online.


Edit:
1.1, - 1.143 sale Rens, - 1.158 Jita
buy:
1.158 x 2
1.129 Jita
1.128, + 1.127 , + 1.125

Edit 2:
I have to go to a library to cancel a book holding which I don't need since I found the version I needed on Amazon for around $20.
However, if I don't go there (20 km away) , I will have to pay a $1 fine for not picking up the hold.
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#985 - 2015-10-05 23:09:23 UTC
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
Gadolf Agalder wrote:
...
I have to go buy a 1.89 GHz (instead of the required 2.0 Ghz) computer for $89 which will let me run the EVE Market with reduced graphic settings to speed up performance.

I also forgot to verify if I could have sold the PLEx to a buyer 2 jumps away from the station they were offered at because,
I have the trade skills to do it.
Most likely though, for PLEx , they would have required to be sold in the Station making the offer to buy itself, and the range set at Station.

Just because I have the skills to sell in Region doesn't mean that it's not possible for those posting and paying for Buy Order offers to make it impossible for me to sell at a distance...

Uploads:
(All 3) http://imgur.com/a/kPCld

http://imgur.com/hyn1YPd
2015.10.04.16.47.26p
Sell Items (1) - Jita IV Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant
30 Day Pilot's Licen... 2
1145009000.99
2,290,018,001.98) ISK -0.6%
[Immediate V]
129/129 remaining market orders
Broker's fee (0.0%) 0.00 ISK
Sales tax (0.75%) 17,175,135.01 ISK
2,272,842,866.97 ISK

http://imgur.com/YvXtPJA
2015.10.04.16.47.38p
Sell Items (1) - Jita IV Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant
30 Day Pilot's Licen... 1
1,145,004,000.00 ISK -0.6%
[Immediate V]
129/129 remaining market orders
Broker's fee (0.0%) 0.00 ISK
Sales tax (0.75%) 8,587,530.00 ISK
1,136,416,470.00 ISK

http://imgur.com/PjQdiS1
2015.10.04.16.47.47p
Wallet
Balance 9,488,411,315 ISK


I got a 2.4 GHz + something Dual Core system with 1.85 GB usable RAM of 2.00 GB Ram.
Also, it is apparently compatible with Battlestar Galactica Online.


Edit:
1.1, - 1.143 sale Rens, - 1.158 Jita
buy:
1.158 x 2
1.129 Jita
1.128, + 1.127 , + 1.125

Edit 2:
I have to go to a library to cancel a book holding which I don't need since I found the version I needed on Amazon for around $20.
However, if I don't go there (20 km away) , I will have to pay a $1 fine for not picking up the hold.



I have zero idea of what to make on any of this
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#986 - 2015-10-06 02:07:29 UTC
Alexi Stokov wrote:
I have zero idea of what to make on any of this

I think we have more than one candidate for the willow branch treatment tbh.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#987 - 2015-10-06 02:29:06 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
plex is dropping down hard it seems, wonder if the speculators are trying to get out somewhat and taking their profits, before they get caught holding Overvalued stock?

The PLEX price clearly overshot.

Some people are dumping stocks, some people are taking advantage of the high price to purchase PLEX (£/$/etc) and convert to ISK and we may even be seeing a CCP intervention (for possibly the first time this year).

I expect it to fall back to ~1.1B and then resume it's climb.

1,154 Sell / 1,138 Buy atm

Yeah, I didn't think my predictions were controversial. But some people seemed to think it was the beginning of the end.

Lockefox called it the same as I did, but with less words and more graphs.

Delonewolf said he'd invest half of his wealth if it fell below 1B, but I didn't see a fall of that magnitude being likely.

I'm happy to have picked up six month's supply of PLEX for my alt army at a reduced price. Maybe we'll see another spike that will warrant me cashing these in, but I'm inclined to think I'll just be using them. Shame I didn't have the time or liquidity to invest another 100B or so, but the PLEX sale was over pretty quick. The period of instability made for some nice flipping profits, but the margin and volume have now shrunk back to more normal levels.
Ishmael D'ren
Alt Beanix Fuel Cartel
Goonswarm Federation
#988 - 2015-10-06 03:16:19 UTC
Bought in at 1.091Bn for the most part.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#989 - 2015-10-06 04:29:15 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Bad Bobby wrote:
motie one wrote:
plex is dropping down hard it seems, wonder if the speculators are trying to get out somewhat and taking their profits, before they get caught holding Overvalued stock?

The PLEX price clearly overshot.

Some people are dumping stocks, some people are taking advantage of the high price to purchase PLEX (£/$/etc) and convert to ISK and we may even be seeing a CCP intervention (for possibly the first time this year).

I expect it to fall back to ~1.1B and then resume it's climb.

1,154 Sell / 1,138 Buy atm

Yeah, I didn't think my predictions were controversial. But some people seemed to think it was the beginning of the end.

Lockefox called it the same as I did, but with less words and more graphs.

Delonewolf said he'd invest half of his wealth if it fell below 1B, but I didn't see a fall of that magnitude being likely.

I'm happy to have picked up six month's supply of PLEX for my alt army at a reduced price. Maybe we'll see another spike that will warrant me cashing these in, but I'm inclined to think I'll just be using them. Shame I didn't have the time or liquidity to invest another 100B or so, but the PLEX sale was over pretty quick. The period of instability made for some nice flipping profits, but the margin and volume have now shrunk back to more normal levels.




What, what about me? Cry

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#990 - 2015-10-06 04:40:22 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
What, what about me? Cry
You're quite capable of doing your own smugging, I don't have to do it for you :)
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#991 - 2015-10-06 15:33:30 UTC
Bad Bobby wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
What, what about me? Cry
You're quite capable of doing your own smugging, I don't have to do it for you :)


Lol

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

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Lieu Thiesant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#992 - 2015-10-09 00:53:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Lieu Thiesant
back up to 1.176 m ISK
as posted around 21st August or mid- August
with first spikes occurring around August 26 at over 1.1m ISK.

+ Forgot to mention, until October (and I will now add , perhaps or early November).

I speculate that it will go back down below 940m ISK, as it was before the raise in value mid August.

I also speculate that it will go back up to over 1.1m ISK.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#993 - 2015-10-09 04:08:44 UTC
Lieu Thiesant wrote:
back up to 1.176 m ISK
as posted around 21st August or mid- August
with first spikes occurring around August 26 at over 1.1m ISK.

+ Forgot to mention, until October (and I will now add , perhaps or early November).

I speculate that it will go back down below 940m ISK, as it was before the raise in value mid August.

I also speculate that it will go back up to over 1.1m ISK.


So much for the bursting bubble theory. Roll

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online
Dextrome Thorphan
#994 - 2015-10-09 09:06:49 UTC
Lieu Thiesant wrote:
back up to 1.176 m ISK
as posted around 21st August or mid- August
with first spikes occurring around August 26 at over 1.1m ISK.

+ Forgot to mention, until October (and I will now add , perhaps or early November).

I speculate that it will go back down below 940m ISK, as it was before the raise in value mid August.

I also speculate that it will go back up to over 1.1m ISK.


I speculate that your speculations are bullshit
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#995 - 2015-10-09 22:59:59 UTC
Lieu Thiesant wrote:
back up to 1.176 m ISK
as posted around 21st August or mid- August
with first spikes occurring around August 26 at over 1.1m ISK.

+ Forgot to mention, until October (and I will now add , perhaps or early November).

I speculate that it will go back down below 940m ISK, as it was before the raise in value mid August.

I also speculate that it will go back up to over 1.1m ISK.


Sorry but that price is just not going to stabilise at the same level it was before unless something dramatic happens. Once you strip out the in year seasonality, it just goes up.
Lieu Thiesant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#996 - 2015-10-10 08:59:19 UTC
Aoife Fraoch wrote:
Lieu Thiesant wrote:
back up to 1.176 m ISK
as posted around 21st August or mid- August
with first spikes occurring around August 26 at over 1.1m ISK.

+ Forgot to mention, until October (and I will now add , perhaps or early November).

I speculate that it will go back down below 940m ISK, as it was before the raise in value mid August.

I also speculate that it will go back up to over 1.1m ISK.


Sorry but that price is just not going to stabilise at the same level it was before unless something dramatic happens. Once you strip out the in year seasonality, it just goes up.

It will not stabilize but it will go back down and it will go back up again.
Lieu Thiesant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#997 - 2015-10-11 01:04:10 UTC
Dextrome Thorphan wrote:
Lieu Thiesant wrote:
back up to 1.176 m ISK
as posted around 21st August or mid- August
with first spikes occurring around August 26 at over 1.1m ISK.

+ Forgot to mention, until October (and I will now add , perhaps or early November).

I speculate that it will go back down below 940m ISK, as it was before the raise in value mid August.

I also speculate that it will go back up to over 1.1m ISK.


I speculate that your speculations are bullshit

I was right about the first speculation back in mid-August or before and I even measured the level and degree of precision of the exactitude to which I was right.

It could get more scientific with a little bit more administrated funding.

So far , I am still right, at least until around mid-October to the end of October...

I can verify the originally published speculation from Mid-August, it is still on the forum to make it possible to verify.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#998 - 2015-10-11 02:31:07 UTC
Lieu Thiesant wrote:
Dextrome Thorphan wrote:
Lieu Thiesant wrote:
back up to 1.176 m ISK
as posted around 21st August or mid- August
with first spikes occurring around August 26 at over 1.1m ISK.

+ Forgot to mention, until October (and I will now add , perhaps or early November).

I speculate that it will go back down below 940m ISK, as it was before the raise in value mid August.

I also speculate that it will go back up to over 1.1m ISK.


I speculate that your speculations are bullshit

I was right about the first speculation back in mid-August or before and I even measured the level and degree of precision of the exactitude to which I was right.

It could get more scientific with a little bit more administrated funding.

So far , I am still right, at least until around mid-October to the end of October...

I can verify the originally published speculation from Mid-August, it is still on the forum to make it possible to verify.


HFS, 1 for 3!!!!

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

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Lieu Thiesant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#999 - 2015-10-11 02:41:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Lieu Thiesant
Teckos Pech wrote:
HFS, 1 for 3!!!!

I got 2 out of 3 right, the last one being either until mid October to around the end of October.

Let me check.


#538 - 2015-08-25 08:36:22 UTC | | Edited by: Gadolf Agalder 2015.08.25 08:42 | Reason: plex price

Edit:
Plex Price will be 1.1 b ISK to 1.2b ISK in 7 days + until around October (for 10% to 20% + increase).
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1000 - 2015-10-11 09:27:50 UTC
Lieu Thiesant wrote:
Aoife Fraoch wrote:
Lieu Thiesant wrote:
back up to 1.176 m ISK
as posted around 21st August or mid- August
with first spikes occurring around August 26 at over 1.1m ISK.

+ Forgot to mention, until October (and I will now add , perhaps or early November).

I speculate that it will go back down below 940m ISK, as it was before the raise in value mid August.

I also speculate that it will go back up to over 1.1m ISK.


Sorry but that price is just not going to stabilise at the same level it was before unless something dramatic happens. Once you strip out the in year seasonality, it just goes up.

It will not stabilize but it will go back down and it will go back up again.


The funny thing about the plex market is that it appears, like most things here, to be a time series with multiple seasonal effects; in week and yearly. (at least when you look at daily data).

Now take that data, adjust for 7 and 365.25 cycles (have a look at tbats) and once you get the seasonal effects out you'll notice there is an upwards trend.

Where it gets interesting is with rapid changes, such as what we saw just recently. However once this noise settles, it'll return to that gentle upwards slope with a slower rate of change and some seasonal patterns.

(the data is pretty messy and frankly I would hate to try and make any serious predictions on it).