Market Discussions

People would just not use the market. They would trade via contracts, or directly by trading with each other in a station, or via a third party.

We have enough economy rigging in RL.

Let's allow a true, capitalistic economy exist, at least in a fictional game, shall we?

Plex has many uses right now. One of which is the direct storage of Isk. Anyone can store plex and play trading games and the worst they have to risk in their mind is less isk, or using it for a month's game time.

Take plex off the in game market and the station games end. Make plex's only use directly applying game time. Now plex can only be converted to AUR, which can then be used for various things. This provides a buffer to Plex, but also makes it far more risky to horde Plex because getting stuck with a lot of AUR would not have the same benefits of being stuck with a bunch of Isk.

There is 12 sell orders in Jita with price under 800 milions atm. And median price keep falling even quicker. PLEX price is droping, several months in a raw already, despite all smart talks about "economy implosion". Simply because PLEX is bound to real money. It is not some virtual pixel item, it is a bit more, than part of Eve economy. CCP loses money on high PLEX price and they want their money back.

How much is CCP losing? I'd guess that your argument is that because PLEX nets you ~800 m isk that people are buying less because the PLEX is getting them more than when PLEX bought 500 m isk. I would argue that because PLEX gets more isk, it incentivized people to buy it with real money because it gives them more isk. Unless the $ price for PLEX has changed, the real world money is now buying more. The question would then be at what level is there "equilibrium"?

I bought my first plex for 319 million isk and i know people who bought 90 days for 180 million

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I would argue that PLEX bought does not = profit for CCP until it is utilized. Remember they are a Corporation that has to follow accounting standards and practices.

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not sure if youre trolling or what

but by that logic lets say i sell sodapop irl
you buy one but i dont profit until you open it and drink it

Because the volume of PLEX rarely moves much. The same amount is being bought from CCP and put on the market every day. The real change has been price. Sure there have been some spikes and dips, but the real kicker is the price has increased over time with little change in volume.

So the only real change is when PLEX = High, investors unload stock (AKA CCP not involved)
When price = Low, investors stock up (same amount bought from CCP, but liability increases as game time owed)

CCP has pretty steady sales of Plex, their income however fluctuates based on how many are used. They already stated year over year that stockpiles of PLEX are alarming, and concerning. Their move off the market means the Liability of Plex is not the hedge fund of players, instead we stock AUR which CCP doesn't have to show on their books as game time owed.

This is exactly why I support the selling of skill remaps for plex. Anything that destroys a plex without redeeming game time is the same as ccp lending money to someone and then that someone says its ok nevermind you can just keep the money, and that will be good for ccp, and more money in their wallet means more development And improvements on eve.

Ok, I see where you're coming from. However, I think you don't consider some aspects that I would deem important.

What you describe is only an accounting problem. You could also say it's purely cosmetic. CCP already has the money and will keep it. There is no way players can give their PLEX back to CCP and force them to pay real money for it.

Furthermore people with stockpiles of PLEX might stop playing without touching their PLEX. Or they might get banned and get their PLEX confiscated by CCP (I think it's not unreasonable to believe that CCP confiscated a significant number of PLEX when they banned Somer). In these cases it's money for nothing for CCP. They get money but never have to provide any services. And if at one day in the (hopefully) far future CCP decides to shut EVE down, all the stockpiled PLEX will be worthless (more money for nothing for CCP).