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Why I go to Highsec

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#21 - 2014-11-10 01:03:27 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Let me see if I got this right.

You go to high sec to gank everyone with no repercussions on a disposable alt, but you say high sec is the safest place to be.

Interesting.

Mr Epeen Cool



I gank on my main, however you post with no repercussions on a disposable alt. Should NPC alts be allowed to post? I'm just asking questions.


LOL! Mr Epeen-birthdate 09/09/09 makes me, a 'disposable alt', two years older than you. I'll be here long after you skulk off because of some perceived injustice to null.

As to your second question. How do you tell an NPC alt from an NPC main?

Mr Epeen Cool
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#22 - 2014-11-10 01:03:59 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
And yet the goons manage to field a 1000 ship supercap fleet....offer double SRP on PvP, etc.... sounds like bankruptcy.

Not to mention AFK ratting and AFK mining with much better risk/reward than highsec, and no competence required. To recap - sov nullsec full of rich players, highsec full of poor players, and the richest corps/alliances all in highsec.

Solution - nerf highsec.


Veers you are confused about alliance level income versus individual income. Consider individual income then get back to us. Also yes the solution is to nerf highsec.


And where exactly does that alliance level income come from? Oh you mean it comes from renting out the best space and monopolizing manufacturing, etc... hence denying the individual pilots the ability to make better isk? Galling...sounds like they need a union.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-11-10 01:04:36 UTC
Remove all L4 missions and Incursions (seriously, if CONCORD can insta-pop capsuleers they should have zero problems with Sansha). Most of the rest of the content is pretty appropriate for a newbie learning area, although the NPC corp tax should be set to something particularly punishing to encourage leaving there ASAP. Also, isn't blitzing L3s the new missioning meta? I've been away for a bit, but maybe that payout needs a bit of nerfing as well.

Basically everything La Nariz has said, yeah.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#24 - 2014-11-10 01:04:41 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:

And where exactly does that alliance level income come from? Oh you mean it comes from renting out the best space and monopolizing manufacturing, etc... hence denying the individual pilots the ability to make better isk? Galling...sounds like they need a union.


Yep, he's high again.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-11-10 01:04:50 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
La Nariz wrote:

Right there the highsec CSM implies that highsec income is too good to the point other parts of the game have to finance themselves with said income.


Too bad CSM don't actually represent CCP. Implications, quotes taken out of context, and feelings don't mean squat without data.

La Nariz wrote:


Again individual income versus alliance income, referring to mythology as reality, and no evidence.


And where is your evidence?




In that quote and in my post history, I've done two other threads on the subject. Perhaps you should go to F&I and suggest something like a space CV be implemented.

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-11-10 01:07:14 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:

LOL! Mr Epeen-birthdate 09/09/09 makes me, a 'disposable alt', two years older than you. I'll be here long after you skulk off because of some perceived injustice to null.

As to your second question. How do you tell an NPC alt from an NPC main?

Mr Epeen Cool


You are, your main whomever it is has been shielded by this disposable alt. You don't instead you viciously punish NPC corporations until all but alts remain.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#27 - 2014-11-10 01:10:17 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
La Nariz wrote:

Right there the highsec CSM implies that highsec income is too good to the point other parts of the game have to finance themselves with said income.


Too bad CSM don't actually represent CCP. Implications, quotes taken out of context, and feelings don't mean squat without data.

La Nariz wrote:


Again individual income versus alliance income, referring to mythology as reality, and no evidence.


And where is your evidence?




In that quote and in my post history, I've done two other threads on the subject. Perhaps you should go to F&I and suggest something like a space CV be implemented.


Perhaps you should show your work. Quoting a CSM when they are stating a personal opinion and not representing data is pretty weak-sauce.

P.S. I'm not the one trying to have an F&I discussion in GD.



There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-11-10 01:11:50 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
Doc Fury wrote:

Perhaps you should show your work. Quoting a CSM when they are stating a personal opinion and not representing data is pretty weak-sauce.

P.S. I'm not the one trying to have an F&I discussion in GD.





The CSM do have the data but, NDA. I already did show my work, I never see you put this kind of scrutiny to a pro-highsec post, maybe you have some kind of privilege you should check.

It is a genuine discussion here I'm not proposing any ideas I'm discussing how to best nerf highsec and why it should be nerfed.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#29 - 2014-11-10 01:13:57 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:

Perhaps you should show your work. Quoting a CSM when they are stating a personal opinion and not representing data is pretty weak-sauce.

P.S. I'm not the one trying to have an F&I discussion in GD.





The CSM do have the data but, NDA. I already did show my work, I never see you put this kind of scrutiny to a pro-highsec post, maybe you have some kind of privilege you should check.


I don't see any data in your thread whatsoever.

Attempting to personally attack me over your misguided perceptions and trying to change the subject, is not improving your position.





There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-11-10 01:15:51 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:

I don't see any data in your thread whatsoever.

Attempting to personally attack me over your misguided perceptions and trying to change the subject, is not improving your position.


Clearly you don't read either, I cited my space CV in my post history. Asking me the same question in different formats is still going to get you the same answer.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#31 - 2014-11-10 01:17:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
La Nariz wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:

I don't see any data in your thread whatsoever.

Attempting to personally attack me over your misguided perceptions and trying to change the subject, is not improving your position.


Clearly you don't read either, I cited my space CV in my post history. Asking me the same question in different formats is still going to get you the same answer.


Go ahead and link it then. If Mike's CSM quote is all you have, you have nothing.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Cancel Align NOW
Farming Collective of Mould
#32 - 2014-11-10 01:22:15 UTC
Why are you all posting in a bait thread. It is such a sunny day here and I am stuck inside wasting time looking at this :stuff:
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#33 - 2014-11-10 01:22:23 UTC
If this is not a troll, it is at least troll bait.

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