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Sorry but the new icons are bland, the ones at the moment are colourfull and make it easyer to see what they are for. The new ones look like something from an ipad boring and lifeless.

So, where is the issue? I didn't get it.

As you said, pinning windows make them locked and transparent.
Why would we need more?
Why add a new extra button/option when it's already perfect and simple? (on TQ I mean, NOT on Sisi with this useless and confusing active window transparency dynamic shifting...)

Edit: Well, I suppose you want locked opaque windows?!
OK, so I understand your request, but don't understand why you need to do this...
When I personally need an opaque window, I unpin it and that's it. Cause I don't often missclick (and I think and hope most of the people don't do it either) so it's not a big deal.

Plus: Even with my overview pinned and transparent on TQ, I have always been able to read it. If you can't, then it's because you have set your transparency too strong. Now, if talking about the new UI, if you can't read what is pinned, it is because CCP did a really bad job about it, nothing else. They shouldn't add an option to disable something that is anyway unusable without it.

I mean, don't build and integrate things if they are useless and unusable to better add a "disable it" option later...
That make no sense at all!

Work and think with logic, please...

What we need is:

• One transparency slider for unpinned windows
• One transparency slider for pinned windows

2 states*, 2 sliders**, period.

Nothing less, nothing more.

*2 states instead of the 4 actually on Sisi (pinned, active pinned, unpinned, active unpinned), if they finally decide to disable the dynamic shifting... what they should REALLY do.

**2 sliders instead of 1 actually on Sisi (one to rule them all (why...!?))...

Hi there! Since we are on the topic of UI modernization i would like to propose a few ideas.
First one is about "Selected item" view, quite boring piece of UI, specially when we are on the brink on a new UI looks. It uses precious space and quite rarely see some use.
So how about something like this: http://imgur.com/lqUMeMj (sorry in advance for my poor skills with vector graphics)
Selected item receive target like (but not like locked target) animation around it.

now obviously this idea is a ripoff of nice work done for this http://cargocollective.com/jayse/Avengers specifically this to images http://payload53.cargocollective.com/1/5/186147/3373311/Iron_Man_HUD_POV_JSOW_MarkVII_jayse_hansen.jpg
http://payload53.cargocollective.com/1/5/186147/3373311/mkVII_POV_HUD_GFXonly_jayse_hansen.png
since HUD there looks awesome.
I would appreciate any thoughts regarding this.

Did that - tried it - for me with even my slight vision impairment the new icons all look the same.

After only 10 mins, they just become a blurr the only way i could tell them apart was by mousing over and reading the name.
Optimizing for performance is a little better, you end up with a row of white icons. The only problem is the background of the neocom column becomes transparent allowing light variations from behind to obstruct view.


Oh a note for Devs; Just because it works for some on small form factor touch screens does not mean it is good for my game using multiple 22" monitors.
All the icons on my touch screens (2 used on a daily basis) are bright and colorful - They are appealing to the eye and I can easily tell them apart.

I am more impressed with the design than I thought I would be. However there's one glaring thing that I really absolutely find a shame that it hasn't been resolved yet after it's been bad on TQ with the old UI as well.

It's really difficult for wormhole people to keep our overview readable now that you keep adding more luminous backdrops, without allowing us to control the transparency of windows when pinned.

An example:

http://puu.sh/d50Ht/2ac734e933.jpg

It's really unacceptable that I have to look away from the shiny places in the game just to read the output of my interface.
I want to be able to set transparency levels of windows when they are pinned, to my own personal settings.

As this thread was only being monitored for 3 days and no response or even acknowledgement from devs over player concerns and suggestions has been forthcoming, add the fact this goes live in a couple of weeks, the only conclusion is - 1 UI fits all.

Minimalist icons, that are just uninteresting (aside from the new industry one, like it due to what it depicts) and not easily related to what they represent is probably not the best move forward.
A Z with a line through it so obviously represents a wallet, doesn't it?
How does a bar graph depict a market interface where you buy and sell things?
Possibly the most used icon, personal inventory, is a cube, I think, or is it a kite?
Personal assets icon is exactly the same as the one on my phone for recording video (except I can change its color)

Industry icon is a great depiction of someone, possibly CCP Minimalist (Optimal) giving you the eve player, the finger.


This little end quote from the dev blog just needs one word changed for accuracy.
Swap "responsible" for "reasonable"

Having done a bit more flying in Thera and having my camera pointed at that super bright nebula, I would like to reiterate that the UI needs to compensate for that by lowering the transparency automatically (seriously millions of isk in ships and they couldn't install a sunshield), or change the text color to something with more contrast when your UI is facing a white out situation.

I manually lowered my transparency, but that just means my view is obstructed the other 99% of the time when I am staring into dark space.

I am tempted to agree.

It's mostly fine, but there's a few usability tweaks it could use for edge cases (again, bright nebula)

Does anyone have a twitter account that they can use to send this thread of feedback to CCP Seagull? Twitter gets there attention for some reason.

I honestly think the head UI experience dev has put his head in the sand and will just ship this without modification.

Somebody needs to tell the executive producer that the UI revamp still needs work and it needs to be pushed to the next release or until full customization options are enabled.

UI is so fundamentaly important to EVE and there is no one size fits all for such a diverse game and user base. Customization options are the only way.

Icons are still being updated. If you have not checked lately give them a look again.