Jita Park Speakers Corner

It would be a matter of an API accompanying a Corp application, but only for high sec corporations.



True. It's better to lose your Venture or Rifter to an AWOXer earlier on rather than a Freighter. It's also true that corporations are responsible for their own security. High sec AWOXing could be compared to an agent provocateur, an agent who infiltrates in order to spread chaos and confusion. These have been around since Ancient times, and the Police still use them today.



Yes, I had forgotten about webbing your own freighter. This is certainly a useful tool that would be affected by the 'high sec AWOX' rule, and it's probably the only proactive thing a freighter pilot can do against high sec gankers (who will always be around). There are probably more people webbing their own Freighters than there are high sec 'newbie killers'. After all, you aren't going to get too much fun/ money/ prestige by sabotaging a fleet of low skilled characters flying easily insured tech 1 frigates. Infiltrating wormhole corps? That is a different story.




Yes, you are right. It won't 'ruin' EVE, but it would make EVE a little less of a 'do what thou wilt' sandbox and a little more of a structured amusement park like World of Warcraft. Spy/ Infiltrator/ Saboteurs exist in the real world, Sun Tzu makes reference to their use in his 2000 year old 'The Art of War'. You will even find saboteurs in the 'High sec' of a Manhattan business firm or strategic discussions in the Pentagon, so why not also in the high sec worlds of EVE?

Maybe it's the EVE jargon that makes us think that AWOXers and Gankers are something new, instead of recognizing them as the saboteurs and Highwaymen/ Brigands that have been with us since the invention of money.

I don't know who it was that suggested this, but maybe the easier solution is simply to buff insurance for high sec industrial type ships. If the payout for a ganked Freighter or awoxed Retriever was enough to replace the hull and all the modules, the carebears would care less about losing them. Gankers and awoxers could still have their fun, industrialists and traders would sell more ships, miners would sell more minerals. Everyone wins. It's a very easy, non-disruptive change as well.

It also reflects how insurance works in the real world. The greater your chance of losing your stuff, the higher the cost of insurance and the lower the payout.

In regards to ganking freighters: Our modern day stock market evolved from the Dutch shipping insurance which allowed you to pay for a portion of the ship's cargo hold while still in a foreign port.

If the ship reached it's home port safe and sound, your stock was 'up'. If the ship sank or was attacked by pirates, your stock went 'down'.

Since EVE has no stock market mechanism, perhaps something like this could be used. Instead of courier contracts, deposits, etc. haulers would rent out sections of their cargo holds to shippers who would share in the risks/ rewards with the hauler. If a Freighter gets ganked, the items it was carrying appear with a red arrow on a region wide stock exchange. Now shippers and manufacturers know that there is now a shortage/ demand of those items in that region.

To be honest I'm getting tired of CCP removing valuable tools that teach you the number one rule in EVE "trust no one" Eventually I imagine all ships will come with snowball launchers and a virtual message that said "you would have been killed by pilot XYZ, be more careful next time"/