Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Void bomb 1m radius..

"Use the force Luke... use the force"

But what about the part where they land already decloaked because they get to close to each other while warping? Is that an intent as well?

A lot of people seem to forget that bombers aren't only used in nullsec for bombing runs. I fly them extensively in Empire space, and they make a welcome large-target DPS addition to roaming frigate gangs. But with the agility and warp speed changes, you've all but killed the utility of a bomber in those gangs. They will fly, align, and warp more like a destroyer now than a frigate, which undermines one of the inherent strengths of a roaming frigate gang, which is mobility. So now, frigate gangs have to choose: do we want to maintain our mobility, or do we want to actually have enough DPS to take down larger targets?

Was nerfing roaming frigate gangs really one of CCP's intentions with the bomber changes?

I think I speak for everyone when I say there should be some way to see the location of cloaked fleet members with the new changes.

That would be a wonderful idea even without any changes to the cloak/decloak mechanics.

Yes, you guys might not be able to warp down to a target at 30km and remained cloaked, and then pre-align your ships before decloaking and bombing.

The horror.

Or actually welcome to how every bombing run worked before the cloak changes.

Anti-capital bomb needs a larger radius. Nothing silly, mind you, but more than 1m. I can definitely see missing the target completely because you released half a second early, especially since the overview rounds distances and they don't update in realtime. How about 500m or 1km?

Also, the warp speed. No way should a t2 frigate be slower than a t1 frigate.

Unless your intent is to reposition Stealth Bombers as t2 Destroyer-class vessels?

Also less-than-pleased about the decloak nerf. As noted by others, this only realistically hurts human players, not people running machine clients.

no i still can i just have to use ISBoxer rather then fly with friends but if that was the intent then....

Indeed neuting out a capital should require fielding a bhaal or neut legions or whatever, being able to cap nuke them with bombers and hold em capped with 1-2 incidental neuts is just cheap and nasty.

I can see the intended application against apex forces, etc. but the knock on effect is potentially quite tragic.

Logic says they were bad otherwise CCP would no make them as they are now... and no thay going back.