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The Research Race of YC116

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Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-10-10 15:10:35 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

However, maybe when we have more wormhole based storyline (can't really comment on what's happening until it does >_<) we'll look at bringing it to a close or working on it further.


Pardon me but... are you not aware that the Sleepers - whose behavior the empires are concerned with - live in Anoikis?

Are you not aware that the blue loot that they drop is, therefore, sourced in 'wormhole' space?

You have wormhole based storyline in progress: Sleeper behavior has shifted and people want to know why.

A'J was also about more than just wormhole space, IIRC. There was research on all sorts of things going on there.

There is a bounty of possibility space here that you could be playing in. I'll wait for your big reveal to discuss the ways in which this is so; I believe the point will be more tangible when I can work with much closer to the amount of information you are right now.

CCP Falcon wrote:
No arc that's unfinished in EVE is "gone for good". We just pick them up again and run with them when it makes sense in the narrative to do so.


Thank you for the (sort of) clarification, then. Aside from my observations above, this is encouraging.

As an aside: I see the numbers were corrected. As soon as I get home this morning I will update my own.

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Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2014-10-10 17:25:31 UTC
Update is in, 13,082 is our current total, putting us 49 pts away from beating Minmatar.

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Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2014-10-12 15:53:57 UTC
Update is in for the 12th (actually those numbers are from the 11th, I'm away from my desk today and most of tomorrow). We've fallen behind a little bit, but we're still showing competitively at 106,505.

http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501

CCP Falcon
#64 - 2014-10-12 20:29:15 UTC
Guillome Renard wrote:
Pardon me but... are you not aware that the Sleepers - whose behavior the empires are concerned with - live in Anoikis?


Yes, I am aware. Smile

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#65 - 2014-10-12 21:00:22 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Guillome Renard wrote:
Pardon me but... are you not aware that the Sleepers - whose behavior the empires are concerned with - live in Anoikis?


Yes, I am aware. Smile


Ohh, so more WH lore stuff is coming them? (hopefully)

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#66 - 2014-10-13 00:33:47 UTC
I've never had much interest in RP but this is awesome. I hope you pull it off and CCP does something good about it.

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Darren Fox
Overload This
#67 - 2014-10-13 11:43:46 UTC
Great effort, support sent.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#68 - 2014-10-13 13:10:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
It occurred to me that although you have less than any given faction, you do have enough to do one odd thing:

Donate enough to three factions that all four have exactly the same amount. You would have to make some sort of deal where you get the final numbers after the competition ends, than make one final donation of your own, in just the right amounts, to equalize everyone.

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Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2014-10-13 13:26:37 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
It occurred to me that although you have less than any given faction, you do have enough to do one odd thing:

Donate enough to three factions that all four have exactly the same amount. You would have to make some sort of deal where you get the final numbers after the competition ends, than make one final donation of your own, in just the right amounts, to equalize everyone.


I'd thought about that, or simply playing kingmaker.

Sadly, there was no warning, so there was no time to do anything but push hard on what I thought of halfway through the first day. To ensure that I got good numbers I offered folks the promise that they'd get their blue loot (or iSK) back, should I fail to get CCP involved. Since that's happened, (and since we consistently trail), this'll have to remain an interesting side show.

I don't have new numbers right now because I'm away from my desk. I'll put 'em up in several hours, though.

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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#70 - 2014-10-13 15:27:47 UTC
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#71 - 2014-10-13 20:13:08 UTC
Curious about the update for the independants.

This is the current tally of the Empires:


  • Caldari - 311,249

  • Minmatar - 167,726

  • Amarr - 155,789

  • Gallente - 154,525


Caldari took a huge leap forward. Minmatar have progressed as well and are now second place! Amarr on the other hand have all but dropped silent... Only moving up minimally & getting caught up by the others.

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Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2014-10-14 02:59:09 UTC
255,626 as of 2AM EVE Time, 10/14.

Sorry for the delay, I have a /nasty/ head cold right now.

This means that we would be in 2nd place, were we considered to be in the running, a scant 56k pts behind Caldari.

The punchline is that this is EXCLUDING the ISK donations received, which - @50,000ISK/pt would cut that lead in half.

This is beyond my expectations for this campaign. Well beyond it.

The donations have come from 35 unique individuals. Some individuals have donated multiple times. The largest single donation (and largest total) is 101,635. The smallest is 5pts + a bottle of spirits (cheers).

There's 10 hours left, so we'll see if we get a last minute rush, but I'm super pleased with how this went.

Once again: unless CCP yanks the blue loot from me, it will be liquidated and returned ask ISK unless you've given me license to not return it, or asked for the blue loot back as blue loot.

It'll take me a few days (read: couple of weeks, if I'm honest) to get everything tallied, and put away, and then I still have to figure out how to properly honor you all. You have until I've processed your return to tell me how you'd like it to come: silence = ISK.

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Solecist Project
#73 - 2014-10-14 10:23:52 UTC
Caldari ftw.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-10-14 14:52:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Guillome Renard
Solecist Project wrote:
Caldari ftw.


Shouldn't you be getting your thrasher popped by my Ares in Hek? ;)


IN OTHER NEWS:

Our final tally is 261,832 + 1.27B ISK (+~25,400 pts = 287,232 final tally, all-in) from 39 individual donors!

Based on CCP's language that there was a last minute surge (a wise strategy given the format of the competition) I expect we got left in the dust, but the fact remains: we held our own very nicely against some substantial disadvantages:


  • When CCP sends a message, EVERYONE IN EVE gets it. When I send a message, I get a few hundred views.
  • When you donate to CCP, you /know/ what you're getting. When you donate to me, I could be a scammer and run off with the ISK.
  • CCP made it pretty clear* from the word go that this campaign would not be considered a legitimate contender, so folks who donated here did so purely as a demonstration, at personal risk, with basically zero hope of official reward.
  • CCP started 12 hours ahead of me, and had a plan going in. I had to make this up as I went.


That said, we did have some advantages over CCP, which I should mention as well:


  • You donate to CCP for almost assuredly no reward unless you're a major market mogul. Every donation to my campaign will be acknowledged.
  • EVE Players love to punk The Man(tm), love a good rabble-rouse, and love underdogs.
  • My donors will be getting their stuff or the ISK value of it back, whereas donations to CCP /definitely/ go into a black hole.


Despite all this, 39 brave souls risked ISK and dignity to stand for greater player influence and capsuleers thumbing their nose at the four empires. I suspect nothing will come of it, given the statements made by CCP Fozzie and CCP Falcon. I'll be making one last post, after the smoke has cleared and they've done their big reveal, commenting on how I think they could've better used this intitiative to involve a broader base of players and how they can be better prepared for player-initiated shenanigans in the future.

* While I feel very strongly that CCP missed an opportunity here, if you're not going to capitalize on that the least you can do is say so upfront, so kudos to CCP Fozzie and CCP Falcon for being immediately responsive and up-front about what they were willing to commit to. Keep up the good work guys.


EDIT: In other-other news: Don't blog-and-fly kids! While writing this post [I went down in my Taranis with some of the donated blue loot... that's coming out of my paycheck. :( (http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=25586209 linky doesn't work you'll have to cut and paste)

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Solecist Project
#75 - 2014-10-14 15:00:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Is it one of those "killmails" where the faction police actually did the work?


Okay, so you are one of those who are happy about literally everything as long as
it slightly, remotely, maybe is spinnable into an achievement.

Thanks.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2014-10-14 15:01:40 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Is it one of those "killmails" where the faction police actually did the work?



How's that poem go? "For want of a nail the battle was lost?"

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Solecist Project
#77 - 2014-10-14 15:05:00 UTC
Guillome Renard wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Is it one of those "killmails" where the faction police actually did the work?



How's that poem go? "For want of a nail the battle was lost?"

I edited the post above and it hits the nail on the head.

You can't annoy me with your delusions, sorry.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#78 - 2014-10-14 15:09:07 UTC
Considering how paranoid people can be in EVE, congrats on your campaign, OP.

Even though I personally preferred to give my meager effort of a couple hundred points to Gallente, it's nice to see the independent effort going out strong.
Guillome Renard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2014-10-14 15:18:53 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
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You can't annoy me with your delusions, sorry.


And you can't touch me with yours.

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Billy Hix
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#80 - 2014-10-14 18:55:44 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Jumping in for a bit of devil's advocacy. What do you (and I don't just mean Stan here) think makes an event successful?


A good event is one people enjoy while taking part.

A FANTASTIC even is one that people still talk about fondly years later.

I never took part in AJ, but can you remember a CCP run event that people still talk about now as fondly as AJ?