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The big alliances will stash extra capitals around the map and set up their jump clones to those locations, which I'm sure is not lost on the dev team. Until this is changed, the bigger alliances will have a money-based advantage while smaller groups who cannot have so many backup capitals to stash are left wanting. Don't leave this issue hanging for too long. It's great to have alternate implant sets but the travel issue here is going to be a glaring problem.

The galaxy isn't huge if you can just JC everywhere. You want to make eve big again? Fix this soon.

It's only 10 hours of AFK Ishtar ratting to buy another capital.

I wonder if all of this will be a precursor to high sec ISK generation taking a hit too ... Even better.

Mike, from where you are in nullsec, how many jumps is it for you to get to lowsec in your capital currently? And how many will it be and how long will it take in the future? And based on your experience with the movement of capitals for non-PVP purposes, do you think this will have a desired effect on player enjoyment of the more boring aspects of day-to-day logistics? Finally, have we slaughtered the symbiosis between nullsec/hisec on the altar of force projection?

Since you are collecting relevant comments and tears, I'm hoping you can opine based on your experience in these areas.

Blue donut of entitlement tears = best tears.

You brought this on yourselves.

If you are going to fly it you need to avoid possible gate camps/traps etc, so you need to use intis (nearly uncatchable fit) or use BLOPS as your "main" chain (as those will have still current titan range, then use another one and you are probably there), you only need some BLOPS bridges to get across the galaxy including all your guys can take it (fatigue will be on blops bridger too). The aim is to "project power" as soon as possible here.

So you mean that there will be lots and lots of supers stashed in POSes that the owners won't be able to jump to to defend?

Free supers for everyone, courtesy of Goons and PL!

Over complex and not effective "solution" from CCP.

Lets for a momet forget the stupidity of a taitan jumping trough a gate that is 1/8th of its size...


This wil NOT change the focal type of combat in 0.0 IT will still be a Jutland battle scenario. No one will deploy their main forces unless they are sure to have overhelming advantage. They will wait and they will only jump in when they have their 300+ capitals ready.

The problem of FOrce CONCENTRATIOn (not force projection) is not touched. THe major groups will still be impossible to challenge. Because to challenge them you still need to brign ALL your capitals and they will just brign theirs.. the changes hurt BOTH sides.



A much simpler solution that would have a much BETTER effect would be to make each system (SYSTEM NOT SHIP OR PLAYER) have a maximum troughput of capitals mass per minute. That means that you cannot jump a TRILLION ships at once and achieve instant superiority.


Force projection is IRRELEVANT without force concentration. LEarn a bit of military theory before trying to balance this game please. A small mobile force can project itself faster, but still these are only used on special targets, beccause it is IRRELEVANT on a simple battleground if you arrive first with 20 man in humvees if the enemy is arriving 20 minutes later with 60 T80A MBTs.

If you had all ships with 600 ly range on their drives, but only 2-3 capitals per minute would be able to get into any system, that alone would have a MUCH more effective result on downscaling the fights in eve. And would create an Equal ground for medium and large alliances. Yes, equal ground, because no matter how many pilots you have, the limit is smaller than any group would have, therefore numeric superioritywould only press heavily on a fight after 30 or more minutes.


That limit of ships per minute in a system, incidentaly would also nerf MASSIVE power PROJECTION that you want to nerf so much. That without touching small movment of single capitals AT ALL. And More, it woudl nerf massive power projection MUCH better, because under the CCP new system the side in the defense (i.e closer to their staging) will deploy their fll force anyway as soon as they can get every single capital within 5 ly, and they will overhelm the battlefield COMPLETELY.



I cannot even try to write more because its amazing someone would think this is the way to sovle things. For starters power projection is a MINIMAL factor onthe scenario. I repeat, READ MILITARY THEORY, and no that is not SunTzu outdated concepts (they still work in small scale but not in strategic scale). A simple example that everyone Knows but understand backwards? Panzer corps in the initial blitzzkrieg. Their main capability was NOT the mobility!!!! Motorized infantry would be MORE mobile, but would not be able to concentrate so much power.

With no nerf to the capability of changign your battlefield presence from 1 ship to 700 within a single second, the war states will keep IDENTICAL

Capital pilots are going to have to disabuse themselves of the notion that to get around, they must use jump drives. Finally, the cobweb-covered warp drives of capital ships will get some use If you're complaining about taking so long to get to the other side of the galaxy, good - that's the whole point of the exercise.

Think local.

It was the other way around - these changes leaked, via the null blocks' members on the CSM. The "deal" just is an attempt for them to get around these changes, by having uncapturable npc pockets everywhere they can store caps in.