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Ok so here is the tl;dr of constructive ideas.

Have a fatigue cap. Make it 2-5 hours or something.

JF range should be increased.

Cool down on fatigue should be .25 instead of 1.

Fatigue should scale based on the size of the capital, not a flat rate.

Jump range should be between 6-10 light years.

Additional skills to speed up cool down timer on fatigue.

Oh if they gonna be able to use gates why dont you enable them to dock in stations?
So players can store them before they leave this game.

Yep, for now defenders will have the up hand but CCP is just starting to change 0.0 mechanics. Give it time to see what comes next.

For now the renter empires are just dead. The Big renter enthities like NC. and PL just dont have the numbers to be everywhere at the same time.

The CFC alliances far away from the main cluster will also find them selves pretty much alone to face an attack from some other alliances looking to take some land. Today like it is, these 2 situations would be pretty much impossible to happen.

WTS Pacifiers, 250m per pacifier

SWEEET JESUS, STFU!!!

84 pages and counting. Looks like the scowls lead the grins by at least three to one.

toward the end, one poster finally got the effect on logistics right -- when you can't resupply most of null by jumping out there with a JF, your coalition or alliance will find it NECESSARY to control both sides of the few star gates that allow you to control your supply line.

For example: HERO will absolutely have to control both HED-GP and Keberz. They'll literally have to have capital ships and fleets of subcaps pre-positioned in both systems to fight -- because without that control, they can't resupply themselves and that would mean that they're dead.

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Get out the universe map and check to see how many null regions can actually be reached by any jump of less than 5 light years. Dang few.

Then count the number of places where a long range star gate connection makes it possible to get out to null -- EVERY ONE of those system pairs is going to become a battle zone -- practically all the time.

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Having entry and egress to null controlled by the biggest coalitions will absolutely KILL all of the smaller outfits in null. They'll be unable to resupply at all; they can dock only in NRDS and NPC regions already and thus are cut off from the markets.

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And for you ccp supporters in this -- I remember when Fountain had only two ways to get in and the Fountain Alliance gate camped both of those entry ways 24/7. And that was before a large mobile warp disruptor could be plunked down to cover the entire 15km radius sphere of anyone jumping in. Who'll be able to get through at all when those bubbles are protected by 50 or more guys 24/7?? a few interceptors, maybe. Won't matter if a cloaky SB manages to sneak in -- because the range of a blops drop isn't long enough to get any substantial force in behind them.

Null will become more the exclusive province of the huge alliances and the small guys will be squeezed out of even Great Wildlands.

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in math terms, reducing JF range like this will severely reduce connectivity between regions. That focuses traffic and value into the far fewer connections left. Which will, of necessity, lead to incessant fighting in those connections, which will be won by the people who can bring in the largest forces. Which surely isn't the smaller groups.




Recommendation -- back to the drawing board for CCP and CSM.


-- older than dirt. older than EVE, too.

I bet the 0.0 sock puppet CSMs are lobbying like mad atm.

I have to say the idea of trying to break up the existing power blocks by making it harder to simultaneously both attack and defend strikes me as a bad idea.

Making logistics harder for the deeper regions of null also strikes me as a bad idea too. To live there the people will need to have some sort of agreement in place with those who control null closer to empire to secure both their imports and exports.

to be fair our intelligent enemies are agreeing this reinforces our dominance

it is not just us saying it

So while you wait out your timer you can go play other games, and who knows you might find one you like even more than Eve...oh wait, was I not supposed to say that?

FYI jump fatigue and jump activation timers will NOT be affected by TiDi. They will also continue running during downtime or while an account is lapsed.