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This post was rubbish.

Dude, I don't think you are comprehending what is being said. We know T2 production has existed before Jump Bridges and Jump Freighters. T2 modules used to cost five to twenty times more when that was the case!

The naive expectation of 'freighters with combat escorts' is something that can only drive up costs of doing business because of more people being involved and the increased risks.

Also, such a scheme hurts the small entities and guys who are unable to secure logistical lines!

Adapt or die. You are goons you will find a solution. Here is one load up your 1000 man mega fleet and fly them back however you chose, titan bridge, jb,gate to gate . I haven't run the numbers but I believe the cargo m3 is equal to a jump frieghter.

280 pages since the new release.

That's gotta be a record.



Again, let me state for the record that CCP doesn't know how to play it's own game. POS fixes have been discussed for years, and now we have timers on capital pilots and limiting their jumps both in number of jumps and distance.

This does not make content.

This makes making content more difficult because we can't get to places we want to get to. You've just cut off a lot of null-sec.


Just ...... wow.

The changes may not hurt their ability to hold space. But they will hurt their ability to have fun, and that extends to a good chunk of the player-base in New Eden including those in lowsec who nobody seems to remember or care about.

Those who scream "CRY MOAR FILTHY NULLBEARS TROLOLOL" have clearly not bothered to sit down and consider all of the ramifications of this.

Smaller groups will have extreme difficulty with logistics and moving will be almost out of the question unless every line member either abandons their belongings or owns a carrier and is willing to dedicate a week or more to doing nothing but jumping and staring at timers.

Logistics pilot's suicide rates will skyrocket.

Certain areas of space controlled by the larger alliances will become almost uninhabitable by anybody else because those larger alliances will have less room to branch out and thus will turn to terrorizing the everloving hell out of their immediate neighbors.

Gate camping will likely become an epidemic rivaled only by Bubonic Plague and Spanish Flu as it will be nearly impossible to effectively break the camp unless you are extremely lucky.

Obviously not everything will be doom and gloom. But I predict that most of those who currently think of these changes as the best thing to happen to EVE will quickly change their minds when they have to live with them.

Tl;dr: I predict 50% more work for 50% less fun.

food for tought.. the vast majority of those were 0.0 dwellers and LEFT 0.0 because the game got BORIGN capital ships online. And we are happy because how 0.0 will be interestign enough for us to return.

Goons can and certainly will, as Goons have numbers (that they can now concentrate in the best regions they would like to hold) and resources.

Smaller guys and lesser entities? Not so much. They will realize that accumulating the few numbers and lesser amount of resources into a larger entity is the only way that they can operate competitively and reasonably in null.

End result? Power blocs and stagnation.

What were we trying to end again?

Positively sure it was mentioned, yes.

Basicall y peopel are complainign that the Major PVP MMO will have to be player with other people (OMG) and will have more COMBAT. .OMG OMG we are dooomed!


Go play hello kitty online if you do not want those things.

The intent of the new rules, as I interpret them, is it to limit your movement AND give you an option to "burn yourself out" in case of emergency. Since massive cap fights only happen once a year in Eve, this is likely not too big of a deal, is it?

Your effective cap fleet radius is 10-15 AU per day - if you choose not to use gates. That means you can effectively defend structures within a 20-30 AU radius of your staging system.

The practical "cost" of this new feature: Your cap pilots logging on between sessions of LoL and playing the game for 10 minutes each day as they move their "strategic assets" 10-15 au closer to where they need to be.