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The people doing that legwork right now know what it is and will turn hell and heaven over to dodge that bullet if they can.

They're thinking about it. But even so, when you take that jump, you've got 27d of no jumping, because your pre-jump fatigue becomes your post-jump cooldown.

Never go over a few hours of fatigue.

Still the decay is a bit too long. Specially the penalty for the first 2 jumps that make a single night move give you a hard time to get home before you need to get to work.

Remove the +1 from the formula and then the first few jumps will not be penalized so harshly while a lot of jumps will still be.

@Greyscale

You are skipping over a few very valid things and brushing them off and from my perspective, it is extremely frustrating and dismissive.

Cyno Jammers
Alliances are currently paying a billion ISK a month to block capital ships, 100% from being able to enter their system, without at least a good warning in advance. This is the primary benefit of a cyno jammer. your response that "there will probably still be some advantage" is just dismissive, you're massively changing something that's been in since POS were added and it wasn't covered in your blog, one-line respones on a significant change isn't right.

Either Cyno Jamming becomes practically free (at least a damn lot less than 1bil a month), or its effect prevents capitals from using the stargates to enter the system too, or your customer service offer to uninstall the upgrade for each alliance upon request who otherwise have to trash a hell of a lot of iHub upgrades just to uninstall it themselves. this isn't a "minor impact in how cyno jammers work" it is a huge, significant change that entirely changes their effectiveness and usefulness.

Jump Bridges
Another player commented about Jump Bridges, his actual point was that they were meant to be a sort of "reward" for an alliance holding space and a positive benefit to being a sov-holding-entity. your response to him was that "well good luck if you instead want to have 50 titans online to bridge people instead", this was not his point, his point was that JB were a cool, useful thing you got for claiming your space, now they are not much more useful than a titan bridge (which, pending these changes, isn't very useful).

Other stuff...
And for my own point, this makes people wanting to do something like capital production (something I previously did) utter hell. When I was building Moros, I built them in low-sec and it took a single mid-point to get them in the Forge region to sell on the jita regional market.

After these proposed changes, not only would it take me 5 jumps (imagine calculating the cooldown on that....) it would take me (avoiding fatigue) 7 days to move a single moros. But that would be pointless anyway, because no right-minded player is going to buy a moros that's too far away from there home now (which, is about anywhere that isn't your home).

Finally, another point I raised, Capital ships are fun, you feel like you achieved something the first time you jump into your Carrier/Dread, jump drives are fun, jumping around and doing things because of that is fun.

These new mechanics aren't fun, they aren't enjoyable. I'm not saying change isn't needed in regards to power projection, but please remember that despite "eve is real" and eve has the most complex meta play, market blah blah of any game, it's still meant to be a game it is meant to be [f]fun[/b] and features (or changes to features) should always take fun into account.

Tell that to your boss and his letter signers.

If you're going to quit the game over these changes. I call dibs on your stuff.

Then don't undock a JF from jita 4-4 and paint a giant neon target on yourself like a dumbass. They don't even watch perimeter, one jump away. Move the stuff there with something smaller and happily jump your JF out unmolested.

Why? It's not a bad change. It might need a bit of tweaking, and it could do with a better sov system to match, but it's not BAD.

Absolutes are never absolute. It seems obvious to me that his use of the word "impossible" here is a hyperbole much in the way that Vicinni used the word "inconceivable" in the movie "The Princess Bride". What also seem obvious to me is that you want to reduce the ability to move materials around to a level even lower than when T2 ships were so expensive that they were out of grasp for average players and at the same time seem to think that there will be no significant increase in the cost of T2 .

Yes certainly some people will start moving stuff around with combat supported industrial fleets but that won't happen in any large way until moon goo prices shoot way up beyond where they are now and even then deep null sec systems will see a serious drop off in usage.

I can only assume that you are planning some revamp of moon goo mining in the recent future that will allow players to get the various types of materials that they need all locally much in the way ore and mineral acquisition works today and have this dream of independent local self-sustaining market hubs will pop up deep in null:

1) I just don't see this happening at the level I'm guessing you are thinking it will.

2) I don't see how you can have a thriving economy if you are only selling to locals.

3) In the spirit of Inigo Montoya "This phrase ""Risk versus reward"" I don't think it means what you think it means". I mean industrialist running around null with Billions of isk worth of moon goo or T2 products to earn a couple of percent profit at market versus PvPers in cheap ships that they planed on loosing anyway, that equation just adds up to extreme increases in the price of anything T2.


Then why are you nerfing BlOps and logistics at the same time?

I recently started training up Black Ops and covert cyno skills on my main and a couple alts so that I could finally run some of these null sec escalations that I get as they are always 14+ jumps away in hostile territory and there is almost always a bubble camp inbetween me and the escalation system. Sure I could still do that on a one off basis but saving a couple of these up so me and friends could run them together just won't happen with these changes. This kinda messes up the remap that I just commited to for the next year about a week and a half ago.

Few things;

First the Jump Drive Calibration skill is functionally useless now with all caps having a 5LY range. It could be replaced with a 5% per level reduction of jump drive cooldown generated from jump fatigue.
Ex: If a pilot has a Fatigue of 5.85 and jump 4.3LY they would normally gain a cooldown of 1+4.3+5.85=11.15. This change in skill would reduce that cooldown to 9.69=1+4.3+(5.85*.75)

Second I think black ops ships should get the 90% reduction that the Rorqual and JF get.

Third is there no better name than "Fatigue"? It feels like I am sprinting toward bandits hoping to land a power attack with my Daedric BattleAxe, and then chugging green potions to recover.