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November sometime. Possibly just enough time for me to train into a dread.

And I thought we were supposed to be getting AWAY from spreadsheets.

"Sorry, did you not understand we told you not to jump before the fleet up? We can't take you on the fleet tonight."
New player retention?

I thought november wa when they hit TQ? or is it going to be pretty close to release?

I love this change. It reminds me of Battlestar Gallactica when they're being chased by the Cylons after every jump. That crew was fatigued after so many jumps. It wore them down. I love that's what will take place here.

I just wish it affected your performance in combat if you have a fatigue timer still active, no matyer what ship you're in.

Gather a bunch of rookies up in a staging high sec system, have fun traveling to the station of your choice down in null sec. How being able to teleport over there once in a blue moon changes anything? How is this any better at all? Most of the time the only people who make use of pod jumping and will continue taking advantage of whatever NPE focused implementation will be vets and their clever use of game mechanics. Lobbying for limited use features is a waste of dev time. Such feature wouldn't teach new players anything about EVE and it's complex mechanics. Let dev focus on serious stuff which is used daily and is in need of serious fixes or rewamps.

I always thought it was a strong point of eve that each section of space (empire, low and null) depended upon each other for goods etc. . . It made for considerable travel back and forth which in turn brought about non-consensual pvp. By moving towards localization of nullsec, there will be less travel back and forth between empire, low and null, meaning that there will be less reasons for non-consensual pvp. Low will be especially hit hard since there will be less folk transitioning back and forth through low from empire to null. CCP hasnt been focused much on non-consensual pvp of late and in facts seems to be pushing things in the opposite direction with its relatively recent nerfs to crimewatch and now we have the introduction of the DOJO. Over all, I cant say that Im happy with the direction EVE development.

After a day to think about this is at the same time the most brilliant and dumbest thing CCP has ever come up with.

It solves the stupidity of bored capital pilots hot droppiing things 20ly away "just because", solves big alliances from being able to launch an attack then respond to a threat half way across null within the same half hour and makes subcaps much more relevant.

It on the other hand will screw anyone who was a small renter deep into space , unless they are ready they can somehow assemble a manufacturing trade arrangement.

THe issue in EVE is attempting to ship anything without jumping is so much more difficult than a real world equivilant. You can not even have free traders going from Alliance A space who make X widgets, to Alliance Bs space to trade for Y widgets, since people will make their life miserable.

protip... use the stargates for short range trips.

a nano fit niddy can get up to 6.5 AU per second...

^^ This is true.

In the years I have been playing, this isn't the first time this has happened. There have been multiple changes that were pushed through even after large numbers of players threatened to, and even followed through with dropping their subscriptions.

Although the amount of players posting their discontent over this change might seem like a lot, it still has yet to grow beyond the backlash caused from the disabling of ghost training, or the nano nerf, or quite a few other changes over the years.