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You raise a very good point which leads me to wonder if Greyscale and his team even considered the wider impact to macro economics in this game? For those of you in Empire, consider the increased cost of all your ships and modules when null sec logistics just got more expensive and more time consuming.

In short, CCP should not release these changes yet. They can be made to work, but a shitton of other changes are required first:

Redistribute moon, ice, asteroids/minerals and anything else that is region-specific. A single nullsec region has to have to capability to be self-sufficient if these changes are to work - and that includes T2 production. T3 production is a special snowflake circumstance, that will always need to be imported. If CCP want to cripple the highsec/nullsec logistics chain, then they MUST first give us the tools to function without it.

Fully iterate on jump clones. It's one thing to remove the ability to podex, but meaningless if you still allow pilots to jump clone across the map in an instant. All it does is hand the advantage to anyone with such a jump clone network already established.

Rebuild the map. And not simply by reducing all of the inter-star distances, that removes the point of the range nerf. Cut down on the 'moat' surrounding the drone regions, and 'square off' regions with strange shapes like Catch. It should be easy to defend your own region with capitals, but harder to throw them elsewhere - this is one of the central principles in these changes. NPC nullsec should be possible (but not neccessarily easy) to keep supplied, rather than being cut off completely. One or two more NPC nullsec regions in the east would provide variety and content to the current renter wasteland.

Make sov space worth living in. Right now each system can only handle a handful of people at a time, and the income is not that great a step up from highsec. If CCP wants alliances to live in densely populated regions, they need to make that possible rather than trying to shoehorn us in. It may be worth removing truesec, as that is one of the key factors in 80% of nullsec being useless.

With these changes in place - and a few weeks gap for people to adjust - the proposed jump drive changes can be made without screwing everyone over. CCP wants to change the way people play? That is fine, they should use a carrot and a stick. Right now we are being bludgeoned to death with the stick while some bloke in a wifebeater sits there eating the carrot in front of us.

No it don't just don't take away the jet and give us a horse carriage again. No one here is crying they are trying to stop CCP from an utter disaster.

That's the sad part - you know you're killing the game with it, you know you're forcing these chances upon New Eden because you're too lazy to change something about it. Don't blame CCP for it, seriously. They gave us all the tools to shape nullsec and well, look at how dull it became.

In regards to the changes to remote clone installs what is the solution now if you're away from game for a period of time and lose the outpost your clone is in and don't have jump clones.
Will the clone be automatically set to somewhere in Empire again so you can get back from NullSec without suffering multiple poddings and no chance to update a clone.

This could already be solved under the current loss of outpost mechanics but I'm not fully versed in them.

nobody is saying that this change will make large alliances weaker or less masters of their domain. What this change will do is make their domain smaller.

Now large alliances will be less able to fight a war on all fronts, and they'll have to make decisions about splitting their forces or choosing which targets to defend or not.

In the past, I always used to laugh when I read reports that "RZR is 'deploying' to delve to assist with the war". My first thought was that it means nothing when they can be back to defend their space before anything comes under attack.
I mean honestly, if razor deployed to delve, and I decided to SBU some of their systems, they could be back to blow up my SBUs before the darn things even onlined! That is seriously broken.

Strategic movement of assets should be just that, not something you do because you were bored yesterday and decided to take a day trip to the other side of the galaxy!

THAT! Its a very innefective solution and that takes a lot of the fun of the game.

CCP need solutions that make better for peopel PLAYING, not people WORKING the game.

The huge groups will surely have enough no life people that can keep movign their ships while at work , resultign very little effect. But the single persons that PAY this game (i.e do not use plex for subs are majority few hours pwe week players.

BE careful CCP on changes that harm SPECIALLY the people that REALLY give all the money that ccp earns.

I quite disagree

I will explain again. It will NOT make their domains smaller. The current system give plenty of time for an alliance to relocate to other side of their empire (they literally have DAYS) and CRUSH the opposition, and PUNISH those people for being dumb enough to try. Then they will deal with the second group.

They will still attack with their FULL force every time. They have time to do it. SO what if they lose 1 system from time to time. The impact will be minor. No one will be able to make major gains before they redeploy.


This would make some effect IF disrupting a system was something you could do within a 4-6 hour period.

There's also one more factor CCP seem to forget about sometimes... this new mechanic isn't fun whilst games need to be balanced, they do also need to actually offer fun and reward.

People (including myself, someone living in empire at the moment and not using jump ships) generally feel they've accomplished something when they obtain their first capital, they are fun ships, when I first got my carrierI d**ked about jumping all over the place, friend wanted me to join him 5 jumps away? SURE! let me put my exhumer in my carrier and jump to you!

People who are use to the above are not going to find arbitrary cooldowns fun. there has to be another way to limit projection in an effective way without making people feel like they don't even want fly a capital ship anymore.