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Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings

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guigui lechat
the no fock given
#1421 - 2017-03-31 15:31:57 UTC
ok, made my weekly burner loot graph
by type : http://imgur.com/a/HSIkl
by typ-race : http://imgur.com/a/3Nnaw

a few good drops today changed this week's trend …
Zarek Kree
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#1422 - 2017-03-31 16:46:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarek Kree
guigui lechat wrote:
ok, made my weekly burner loot graph
by type : http://imgur.com/a/HSIkl
by typ-race : http://imgur.com/a/3Nnaw

a few good drops today changed this week's trend …



Very cool. Are these results normalized to account for different numbers of daily runs? Or is it just a simple average of all runs? I couldn't really tell. A simple average could be misleading unless you're doing the exact same number of runs every day because of the infrequency of faction drops.
guigui lechat
the no fock given
#1423 - 2017-03-31 17:01:32 UTC
values are averaged
value(week, group) = loots.filter(week&&group).map(eveCentral).average()

Note that this program runs on any loot, just need to know what are the type, the faction and the ss .
So I could use it for L4 runs too.

I will refactor it and then you can loot better at the code(mixing differents functions right now, ain't easy). I will also make a program anyone can run.
Lrrp
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1424 - 2017-03-31 20:06:50 UTC
Is there a link somewhere to show the value og the burner loot to know if they are worthwhile to do? Also got the Caldari team burner against the hawk but I can't seem to find then setup for this. any help would be appreciated.
Zarek Kree
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#1425 - 2017-03-31 20:17:25 UTC
Lrrp wrote:
Is there a link somewhere to show the value og the burner loot to know if they are worthwhile to do? Also got the Caldari team burner against the hawk but I can't seem to find then setup for this. any help would be appreciated.


All of the burners are worth doing for the LP and isk rewards alone, regardless of loot drops (except for maybe the Gurista Base Supercarrier mission). The occasional faction loot drop is simply a nice bonus.

All of the team burners are run with the same ship. Most people use a polarized Garmur on all of them. See this post earlier in this thread.

Shoot both the Bantam logi and the Hawk with Mjolnir rockets.
guigui lechat
the no fock given
#1426 - 2017-03-31 21:10:43 UTC
isk-wise the agent|team burners are worth up to 10M in bounty+reward ; plus ~20M through LPper burner , depending on your patience on the market and the faction you run missions for.
So if you are patient you net 30M /burner.

As I found out by loggin all drops they also are worth ~2M average loot-wise. However loot-wise also means more logistics to bring the loot to the market, but can be much better if you have luck and are also patient on market (2M is in BO)
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#1427 - 2017-04-01 11:06:45 UTC
Are there Burner Sites in W-Space?

If not there should be as the NPC Pilots in W-Space would be a par above the Burner Pilots in K-Space.
Jori McKie
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#1428 - 2017-04-01 11:28:39 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Are there Burner Sites in W-Space?

If not there should be as the NPC Pilots in W-Space would be a par above the Burner Pilots in K-Space.


No there aren't.
All of the current Burner are solo doable but most times only with expansive fits and even then one mistake and you are dead. In other words most K-Space Burner require high end fits and high end skills with no more room for improvements.
More difficult Burner in W-Space would mean at least 2 pilots as you won't be able to solo them.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar

guigui lechat
the no fock given
#1429 - 2017-04-01 14:13:26 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Are there Burner Sites in W-Space?

If not there should be as the NPC Pilots in W-Space would be a par above the Burner Pilots in K-Space.


There is no "burner site". There are burner missions which get you to burner pocket.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#1430 - 2017-04-01 15:50:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Chainsaw Plankton
Lrrp wrote:
Skimmed posts but didn't see any fits for the Gurista base with supercarrier. Did find a you tube using a Cerberus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qKOZwrbpIE

Seemed the ship was tanked properly but I can't see what the mods are. Any help?

Oh wait, I see at start of vid he shows fittings. comments?

49mins crikey, I got it down to ~11m combat time which isn't too bad, but not worth it compared to the other burners. I suppose I should reevaluate it as the reward, lp, and bonus are now at max. When missions first come out the rewards default to minimum to prevent abuse, and it took a long time for the rewards on the Gurista base to go up. Compared to standard missions it is worth running, however compared to the other burners and blitz missions not so much.

This video uses my fit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz7PDwTgGH8 they also got it down to ~11m.

my write up on the mission here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6068439#post6068439

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Lrrp
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1431 - 2017-04-02 17:34:54 UTC
In the team burner mission guide:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SAv6bnGM-5etLoPHxVtCsbsz8Q8feN5CFSEgUZclPLI/pub#h.vmlzwdjzd80t

For the Garmur, the guides preamble states that a AB/Web is a must. Yet in the Garmurs fittings, a mwd/tp are listed. ????
Lrrp
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1432 - 2017-04-02 17:36:11 UTC
And thanks Chainsaw for the reply.
Zarek Kree
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#1433 - 2017-04-02 17:47:07 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Lrrp wrote:
Skimmed posts but didn't see any fits for the Gurista base with supercarrier. Did find a you tube using a Cerberus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qKOZwrbpIE

Seemed the ship was tanked properly but I can't see what the mods are. Any help?

Oh wait, I see at start of vid he shows fittings. comments?

49mins crikey, I got it down to ~11m combat time which isn't too bad, but not worth it compared to the other burners. I suppose I should reevaluate it as the reward, lp, and bonus are now at max. When missions first come out the rewards default to minimum to prevent abuse, and it took a long time for the rewards on the Gurista base to go up. Compared to standard missions it is worth running, however compared to the other burners and blitz missions not so much.

This video uses my fit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz7PDwTgGH8 they also got it down to ~11m.

my write up on the mission here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6068439#post6068439



I'd do it at 11 min. Assuming its within a couple of jumps, that keeps your efficiency well above 250m when you include LP, isk and bounties. I didn't know anybody was running that quickly these days. Of course, I'm still a long way from that.
Zarek Kree
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#1434 - 2017-04-02 18:04:24 UTC
Lrrp wrote:
In the team burner mission guide:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SAv6bnGM-5etLoPHxVtCsbsz8Q8feN5CFSEgUZclPLI/pub#h.vmlzwdjzd80t

For the Garmur, the guides preamble states that a AB/Web is a must. Yet in the Garmurs fittings, a mwd/tp are listed. ????


That portion is referring to a brawling setup, but the Garmur is a kiting fit. I don't think I've ever seen a brawling fit listed so I'm not sure what that looks like.
Lrrp
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1435 - 2017-04-02 18:18:49 UTC
So with the kiting fit the Garmur will be able to perma run the mwd?
Zarek Kree
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#1436 - 2017-04-02 18:23:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarek Kree
Lrrp wrote:
So with the kiting fit the Garmur will be able to perma run the mwd?


Yes. It's designed to be cap stable with everything active. You should simply warp in, hit orbit, turn on your MWD and then focus on managing your offensive modules. But ALWAYS check your fittings in EFT or Pyfa to be sure they work for your skills. Early on, I had to run an Inception target painter to get cap stable - something I wouldn't have known if I hadn't checked it in Pyfa first.
Lrrp
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1437 - 2017-04-02 18:36:15 UTC
Thanks bud. I'll go on to fitting the Garmur I got and see how it works out.
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1438 - 2017-04-02 19:22:37 UTC
Lrrp wrote:
In the team burner mission guide:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SAv6bnGM-5etLoPHxVtCsbsz8Q8feN5CFSEgUZclPLI/pub#h.vmlzwdjzd80t

For the Garmur, the guides preamble states that a AB/Web is a must. Yet in the Garmurs fittings, a mwd/tp are listed. ????


this quote is only for those not using the garmur.
Jori McKie
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#1439 - 2017-04-02 19:25:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jori McKie
Zarek Kree wrote:
Lrrp wrote:
In the team burner mission guide:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SAv6bnGM-5etLoPHxVtCsbsz8Q8feN5CFSEgUZclPLI/pub#h.vmlzwdjzd80t

For the Garmur, the guides preamble states that a AB/Web is a must. Yet in the Garmurs fittings, a mwd/tp are listed. ????


That portion is referring to a brawling setup, but the Garmur is a kiting fit. I don't think I've ever seen a brawling fit listed so I'm not sure what that looks like.


Thanks, the sentence is unclear it referrs to the non Garmur brawling fittings i not yet posted. I will change that and make it more clear.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar

Arik VanClaw
The Emet Corporation
#1440 - 2017-04-06 14:25:22 UTC
Any alternate fits for running team burner with the jaguar burner? I'm coming back to Eve but when I last left I lost two Garmur's to wrecking shots so now I just skip that one. I thought I saw a few pages back someone mentioned they had a Harpy fit that works?