Missions & Complexes

Just wanted to add a slightly modified fit for the Talos Burner mission for those, like me, who can't fly a HAC yet. I tried a whole range of fits but couldn't make any of them work consistently except for the VNI. The problem I had with the cap boosted VNIs detailed in this thread is that there were a lot of things to control between manual flying, shield booster, cap booster and drone management.

I wanted something a little simpler that was cap stable to eliminate management of the shield and cap boosters, so I tried a passive and buffer tank but the increased signature caused me to take more damage than I could absorb. What I ended up with was a cap stable, active tank fit that has been incredibly reliable for me.


[Vexor Navy Issue, VNI]

Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Tractor Beam I
[Empty High slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Republic Fleet Berserker x5
Republic Fleet Berserker x3

This fit allows me to make multiple mistakes, activate multiple sentry guns and still approach each Talos largely unscathed due to the speed, small signature and respectable active tank. The only thing I can't do is loot each wreck as I go - if I get too slow, I start taking more hits than the booster can handle. Those with better cap skills than me can even replace one of the cap flux coils for a third drone damage amplifier for slightly improved completion times.

It's not as efficient as other fits, but you're not going to get good efficiency in anything short of a HAC. With decent piloting, it is effective and safe though.

UPDATE: Based on the suggestion of guigui lechat below, I upgraded the DDAs to faction so that I could fit a tractor beam in the highs. If I then orbit the Talos wreck at 1000m, the tractor gets it within 2500m so I can loot it without losing too much speed. I still take a few hard hits, but nothing the shield booster can't handle. Being able to loot as I go cuts a few minutes off of my run time. The faction DDAs make this a little blingy, but it's pretty safe (as long as you don't get ganked).

I also upgraded to faction Berserkers. The increased tank over the T2 variant makes them much more survivable and easier to recall before they go down. I haven't lost any on the test server so far.

I could if I fit faction DDAs, but I don't think a tractor beam could keep up. Max tractor velocity is 500 m/s, but I can't get much slower than 1000 m/s without taking more damage than the booster can handle. I might experiment with that on SiSi though.

Sansha Nation Burner: w/daredevil

This is an alternate fit to the one's I've seen so far. It's cap stable, so you don't need to use and micro-manage booster charges. About 189m isk.

2x Light Neutron Blaster II

1x Cap Recharger II
1x 1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
1x Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

1x Centi A-Type Small Armor Repairer
1x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1x Energized EM Membrane II
1x Capacitor Flux Coil II

1x Small Anti-EM Pump II
1x Small Anti-Thermal Pump II
1x Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Null from 9700m to 3100m, then switch if you want, to Void from 4000m to 1700m. I set orbit at 1400. He was almost toast by the time I got in close, so there really wasn't any need to switch to Void I don't think.

This is my alt, done on my main trackday Cotamerica.

basically same idea as zekirs med cap wolf fit at page 65.
if you change it a bit like his fit you are able to install a second web.

ah ok you are able to fly the wolf

good choice

Anize,

I currently use the fits in your guide to run burners, but the Blood Base always gives me some trouble flying your Orthrus fit. I have all the skills in the necessary skill plan, and I've watched your video on the fight but it always takes me a lot longer to do it than you did in your video. The Ashimmu relentlessly chews on my drones, and my RLMLs always burn up to 90% heat as the first sentinel dies, causing me to do the second sentinel and the Ashimmu on unheated guns. Is the strat in your guide still applicable or should I just skip this one?

I use the Gila as well and usually only have enough heat for the first Sentinel. I finish the mission fairly quickly though. In accordance with some of the recommendations here, I use disposable T1 drones and just keep launching them as they chew through them.

Guys, any suggestions, for Guristas base ? I am playing with 2 characters (2 windows), can fly alsmost anything ?

I understand it takes time, but still want to do it.

Or at least what sort of damage are they dealing ?

Hay

Yea the Orthrus fit can be... a bit touchy at times, used to be amazing before it was nerfed. I think I'll change the guide tonight to recommend the Onyx fit rather. It's a bit slower but has a much wider margin for error.

But I do often skip it as the reward is for some reason lower than other burners and the loot has decreased in value quite a bit. It's pretty sub par as mission go now and can be skipped without penalty. Still better than Gurista base, bleh.

A bit of feed-back for you, but would you also consider making all instances of URLs actual links?

EG (from the version linked in your forum sig):
# GOOD

Thanks to everyone I stole and borrowed fits from as well.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=369477&find=unread

^^^--- actually made into a HTML link.

# BAD
Quick Link to Burner Video Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzPaTWMzXCo22oa2tCmjlc9JHcyxNM_VA
^^^--- added as text, not a clickable link.

Thank you for your continued efforts on this guide.