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Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#1361 - 2017-02-23 23:24:08 UTC
the link by Ploing is my solution to the guristas base, here are my notes if you want to read more: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=447834&find=unread

The only thing I'd change is putting the therm hardener on one side and the rep on the other for better heat distribution, I think my initial thought was to spread out the hardeners and heat both of them as hardeners generate a lot less heat than reps, but you don't really need to heat the exp hardener so might as well move the rep over to be able to heat it.

the incoming damage isn't too bad and is mostly thermal from the dragonflies. and the bombers do EM which is mostly mitigated by moving. Assuming your logi is an onerios it should be pretty easy to tank with the high base therm resists and small sig. Plus you can use all the slots on the logi for tank, so it should be able to out do the vigilant tank no problem.

the guristas base isn't that bad, it is just a bit slow and long compared to the other burners and the payout is lower. Also it took a really long time for the mission payout/lp reward to hit max values.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1362 - 2017-02-23 23:35:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ploing
so are they still worth to think about it ?

you know, wife, kids cats dogs and escaped ccp hamsters have a huge disturbing potential. Smile ermmm i mean especially teh hamsters Big smile or a ordinary phone Big smile
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1363 - 2017-02-24 01:23:48 UTC
So with the proposed signature change to fighters... is the Guristas Base Burner mission going to be more viable?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#1364 - 2017-02-24 01:34:38 UTC
I doubt the change to player fighters will do anything to burner fighters. freaking things are hardcoded to cheat Evil

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1365 - 2017-02-24 09:10:45 UTC
Does anyone have a relatively cheap/cap-stable fit for the Angel Dramiel Burner? Wine is causing unexpected lockups on my Mac since the last update (otherwise I'd use the Daredevil in Anize's guide). Thanks in-advance.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Aghira
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#1366 - 2017-02-24 10:05:02 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Does anyone have a relatively cheap/cap-stable fit for the Angel Dramiel Burner? Wine is causing unexpected lockups on my Mac since the last update (otherwise I'd use the Daredevil in Anize's guide). Thanks in-advance.



[Vengeance, Angel Burner (Dramiel)]

Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Corpii A-Type EM Plating
Dark Blood Energized Explosive Membrane
Ballistic Control System II

Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Small Energy Nosferatu II
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Anti-EM Pump II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II


Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket x1000


Needs CPU implant or genolution set.

Es wird niemals so viel gelogen wie vor der Wahl, während des Krieges und nach der Jagd. (Otto von Bismarck)

english is not my native language.

Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1367 - 2017-02-24 10:46:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ploing
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Does anyone have a relatively cheap/cap-stable fit for the Angel Dramiel Burner? Wine is causing unexpected lockups on my Mac since the last update (otherwise I'd use the Daredevil in Anize's guide). Thanks in-advance.


[Succubus, burner dramiel capstable]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

Gistii C-Type 1MN Afterburner
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Stasis Webifier II
Gistum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier

Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
Small Energy Nosferatu II

Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Capacitor Control Circuit II

needs cpu or genolution too

you can change ab if you will but make sure you are faster than 839 m/s under webs
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1368 - 2017-02-24 10:50:07 UTC
Thanks gang - greatly appreciated!

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Zekir Shardani
xXxgayputin420xXx
#1369 - 2017-02-24 13:36:21 UTC
Ploing wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Does anyone have a relatively cheap/cap-stable fit for the Angel Dramiel Burner? Wine is causing unexpected lockups on my Mac since the last update (otherwise I'd use the Daredevil in Anize's guide). Thanks in-advance.


[Succubus, burner dramiel capstable]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

Gistii C-Type 1MN Afterburner
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Stasis Webifier II
Gistum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier

Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
Small Energy Nosferatu II

Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Capacitor Control Circuit II

needs cpu or genolution too

you can change ab if you will but make sure you are faster than 839 m/s under webs



I bet it would work completely fine if you just remove one heat sink.
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1370 - 2017-02-24 14:26:17 UTC
true Big smile or just use 3 meta heatsinks

btw tested a polarized version on sissy with ~450 dps and med shield booster. but that pricetag Roll

Garrett Osinov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1371 - 2017-02-25 09:05:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Garrett Osinov
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
the link by Ploing is my solution to the guristas base, here are my notes if you want to read more: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=447834&find=unread

The only thing I'd change is putting the therm hardener on one side and the rep on the other for better heat distribution, I think my initial thought was to spread out the hardeners and heat both of them as hardeners generate a lot less heat than reps, but you don't really need to heat the exp hardener so might as well move the rep over to be able to heat it.

the incoming damage isn't too bad and is mostly thermal from the dragonflies. and the bombers do EM which is mostly mitigated by moving. Assuming your logi is an onerios it should be pretty easy to tank with the high base therm resists and small sig. Plus you can use all the slots on the logi for tank, so it should be able to out do the vigilant tank no problem.

the guristas base isn't that bad, it is just a bit slow and long compared to the other burners and the payout is lower. Also it took a really long time for the mission payout/lp reward to hit max values.


m8, do I understand correctly, those fighters do omni damage ? So I have to tank all 4 types ?

I was thinking to use guardian, for armor / cap transfer
Dcommander
Unaffiliated.
#1372 - 2017-02-25 20:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Dcommander
Jori McKie wrote:
Update 30.05.2015:
Patch Carnyx: Frequency of Burner Missions offered by level 4 Security agents has been lowered.



I've requested a mission from one of my level 4 agents 8 different times. He keeps offering nothing but Burner missions.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#1373 - 2017-02-25 23:18:08 UTC
the dragonflies do mostly therm and some exp, might be a little kineitc in there but it is pretty minor.

the bombers do EM, but the torps have very bad explosion velocity so you can reduce most damage just by moving in a cruiser hull. Just having base armor resists + an EM rig made it doable.

and mission offers are still RNG so you can get streaks of either, 8 burners in a row sounds great to me.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1374 - 2017-02-26 03:25:40 UTC
They should change the Guristas Base Burner to the new Chimera. Lugh Crow-Slave loves the new redesign and would be absolutely stoked.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Garrett Osinov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1375 - 2017-02-26 16:11:42 UTC
Did Guristas base today with Vigilant + Basilisk.

[Vigilant, Anterro shield]

Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

True Sansha Stasis Webifier
Stasis Webifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II


Tried to do with rails, but couldn't hit the fighters at all.

Does anyone know if any of the structures have good loot ?
Lol Boyan
BOMJMANN Corp
#1376 - 2017-03-10 20:21:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Lol Boyan
Del ...
GinBar
BALKAN EXPRESS
Shadow Cartel
#1377 - 2017-03-11 16:00:04 UTC
anyone tried anomic agent missions with more than 1 char ? Anyone tried multiboxing 'em. Any ideas. Team burners are too easy with kitsune + garmur combo. Can it be done with like 3 rr worms ? or what ever. Just wanna start somewhere ...
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1378 - 2017-03-11 16:53:32 UTC
with 3 alts i would use 3 daredevils with the unified fit.
Fluffy Moe
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1379 - 2017-03-12 04:49:27 UTC
Hi all

I'm a newish, returning player and I'm looking at these burner missions. I have read quite a bit of this gigantic thread and few of the links etc., but most of the stuff here deals with blitzing and very high end fits, many of which I am not skilled for yet and even if I were, can't even remotely afford them.

So my questions are more along the lines of which ones of these missions are easiest to get into and what lowest end fits can they be finished on, not blitz or max LP / ISK, but just be able to finish some of them successfully. Once I can get the basics down I'm sure I'll be able to refine things further on my own. Also, my pilot character for these will be flying solo, no multi boxing or anything like that.

So fit wise I'm looking at T1/T2 stuff, or is that just not possible with these ? As well as some general feedback about starting out on the burners from you vet players.

Thanks

Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1380 - 2017-03-12 10:46:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ploing
Fluffy Moe wrote:

So fit wise I'm looking at T1/T2 stuff, or is that just not possible with these ? As well as some general feedback about starting out on the burners from you vet players.

Thanks



welcome back.

for starting i recommand teamburners with the garmur which is able to do all 4 types. its very easy to use and with a cheap fit ~ 100 mill. ROI ia after a few missions.

[Garmur, Polarized Starter]
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer, Missile Range Script
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer, Missile Range Script
Peripheral Compact Target Painter

Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Polarized Rocket Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I


just make sure you have the relevant skills up to 4-5 especially missile range skills.