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Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings

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Donnie Supertramp
Lamellar
#1081 - 2016-04-03 21:41:54 UTC
Love the burner mission idea, seems like they are crazy difficult and each one needs a different faction ship + fit.

I've been trying the Guristas Burner on Sisi with zero luck, anyone have any ideas? Tried a daredevil a few times, might have messed up but it went down pretty fast, same with everything else I've tried. My light missiles don't even do damage nor do my warriors, which are the fastest drones, ugh wth?

Also lost a ship on the Angel one with the transport and the dramiels. Seems like there really isn't a lot of info on these missions and they have changed a bunch, just got the Ashimmu Burner, and would like to give it a try just don't have a lot of info out there on how to tackle this one.

Thanks for the help!

Tulia
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1082 - 2016-04-04 02:15:42 UTC
Donnie Supertramp wrote:
Love the burner mission idea, seems like they are crazy difficult and each one needs a different faction ship + fit.

I've been trying the Guristas Burner on Sisi with zero luck, anyone have any ideas? Tried a daredevil a few times, might have messed up but it went down pretty fast, same with everything else I've tried. My light missiles don't even do damage nor do my warriors, which are the fastest drones, ugh wth?

Also lost a ship on the Angel one with the transport and the dramiels. Seems like there really isn't a lot of info on these missions and they have changed a bunch, just got the Ashimmu Burner, and would like to give it a try just don't have a lot of info out there on how to tackle this one.

Thanks for the help!



The guristas burner (anomic agent) needs an extremely fast ship to catch up and shut off its MWD with a scrambler. Daredevil seems to be the most popular choice, the fit is linked on the first page of this thread.

The vigilant with 2x webifier II, tracking computer+tracking script, and sacrificial drones works well against the dramiel escorts, it folds pretty quick in my experience if those drones aren't out to distract the dramiels though. I also recently ran the ashimmu burner with a passive gila listed in this thread, you'll go through t1 vespas like mad but they're cheap and effective. Bring a bunch and a mobile depot.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#1083 - 2016-04-04 06:19:12 UTC
I gave some advice for the gurista burner one page back. tl;dr activate the gate, do a 180 hit approach and heat your mwd one cycle, then usually should be able to land a scram within the next mwd cycle. with the 2 speed rigs, max skills and a zor implant you can reach the burner in one heated mwd cycle, less and 1 heated + 1 normal should do it. Also over heat your hardeners so you don't get alpa'd. over 5km/s and the missiles can't catch you so you have a chance at getting hit by multiple volleys at the sameish time.

angel base: vigilant with dual webs and a target painter seem to make short work of it. make sure they are 90% webs, think that means you have to use t2 or faction. I kinda glazed over the tiericide. but I tried cheaping out on fed navy webs for something a while back and using a base 55% web made it take way longer, so now I use 60% webs for just about everything.

blood base afaik the gila still works, just need to drop a low. I suggest bringing a mobile depot and some stuff to refit into a full tank fit, or a gtfo fit, and a lot of extra drones.

overall I think they are well documented, it is just the documentation is spread out all over this 55 page thread. if you do spot changes please do post them. I'm not actively running them right now so I'd miss any changes.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1084 - 2016-04-04 09:32:21 UTC
Donnie Supertramp
Lamellar
#1085 - 2016-04-05 15:12:54 UTC
Thanks for the input, I've read most of this blog, and I"m mostly trying to avoid buying a different t2/faction ship for each of the missions.

I've been able to complete all but the Guristas Burner and I tried the daredevil fit in this thread, it's a papercup, I got smoked before I ever got close to scram range, Harpy, Enyo, all smoked. The other thing that drives me nuts is my missiles don't do anything, the Worm is going way to fast.

Anyway, I'll keep trying em on Sisi before I try em in game
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1086 - 2016-04-05 15:44:15 UTC
Donnie Supertramp wrote:

I've been able to complete all but the Guristas Burner and I tried the daredevil fit in this thread, it's a papercup, I got smoked before I ever got close to scram range, Harpy, Enyo, all smoked.


did u overheat the mwd ?
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#1087 - 2016-04-05 22:53:52 UTC
if you can record the fight it should be easy to figure out what is going wrong. Heating the hardeners is essential to not getting instapoped and heating the MWD helps you catch up faster.

this one seems to have good execution, even uses a cheap fit. However uses a web instead of a scram, not sure that makes much of a difference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqTu-gad2J4

The daredevil recommended in this thread is designed to be fast so it catches the burner in one heated MWD cycle, makes up for the tank by adding some shiny mods. I've never had a problem with it.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Sid358
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1088 - 2016-04-14 19:28:47 UTC
[Garmur, Garmur Burner Team Pol. Rocket]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pro-Nav Compact Missile Guidance Enhancer

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Missile Guidance Computer II
Missile Guidance Computer II
Missile Guidance Computer II

Polarized Rocket Launcher
Polarized Rocket Launcher
Polarized Rocket Launcher

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I



Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket x2000
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket x2450
Caldari Navy Nova Rocket x2000
Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket x2000
Missile Range Script x3

I have it changed and is my fit now ;P
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1089 - 2016-04-14 23:05:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ploing
Sid358 wrote:
[Garmur, Garmur Burner Team Pol. Rocket]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pro-Nav Compact Missile Guidance Enhancer

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Missile Guidance Computer II
Missile Guidance Computer II
Missile Guidance Computer II

Polarized Rocket Launcher
Polarized Rocket Launcher
Polarized Rocket Launcher

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I



Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket x2000
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket x2450
Caldari Navy Nova Rocket x2000
Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket x2000
Missile Range Script x3

I have it changed and is my fit now ;P
looks good, if u can squezze an quad lif mwd, do it for a smaller sig. perhaps a mgc for a tp. but you know the basic fit is old now.
Sid358
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1090 - 2016-04-17 10:58:19 UTC
hi,
this fit is max in cpu. i can´t fit a quad lif.

but i have a other question:

sometime in the team burner jaguar hit you the jaguar. is it the same with the pol. rocket garmur?

peace sid358
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#1091 - 2016-04-17 12:13:23 UTC
Yes

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1092 - 2016-04-17 15:04:21 UTC
Sid358 wrote:
hi,
this fit is max in cpu. i can´t fit a quad lif.

but i have a other question:

sometime in the team burner jaguar hit you the jaguar. is it the same with the pol. rocket garmur?

peace sid358


at all V the quad can be fitted with 0,03 cpu left. maybe you missed to max out a cpu related skill

we talked earlier in this thread about the jaghits. get back a few pages.
Warmonger Simon
Trinity Alpha Zero
#1093 - 2016-04-17 17:00:20 UTC
Or you could just fit corelli c-type 5mn mwd for both sig/cap usage , be cap stable and smaller sig.
Warmonger Simon
Trinity Alpha Zero
#1094 - 2016-04-21 09:04:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Warmonger Simon
And mini-edit. If you're sick of busy mission hubs and aiming to do burners for best lp/rewards from doing burners here's some corps/locations for L4 sec agents with lowest truesec in highsec. Some are in bad spots and near low-sec areas but some are nice places to mission if you want to be in more safe spot than busy SoE systems where your polarized garmur can get instapopped by some trasher. Unfortunatelly lost one myself recently so i decided to move to one of these that still had good conversion (actually better than SoE and pretty good location/truesec rating etc...) don't want to crash my already small market so i blurred it out.

http://take.ms/lLLZt
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#1095 - 2016-04-21 12:27:47 UTC
Warmonger Simon wrote:
And mini-edit. If you're sick of busy mission hubs and aiming to do burners for best lp/rewards from doing burners here's some corps/locations for L4 sec agents with lowest truesec in highsec. Some are in bad spots and near low-sec areas but some are nice places to mission if you want to be in more safe spot than busy SoE systems where your polarized garmur can get instapopped by some trasher. Unfortunatelly lost one myself recently so i decided to move to one of these that still had good conversion (actually better than SoE and pretty good location/truesec rating etc...) don't want to crash my already small market so i blurred it out.

http://take.ms/lLLZt

This is very good advice, especially with a bunch of gankers now going 'freelance' what with code losing a few corps.

That said smart use of undocks, insta docks+autopilot and creative use of in and out gates means you should be safe 95% of the time. The T2 garmur is cheap if you have the skills to make it work so no huge loss.

Also don't forget you can run missions to help other people get standing and get paid decently for it. There's a couple of services that needs mission running pilots for it.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3

Warmonger Simon
Trinity Alpha Zero
#1096 - 2016-04-21 12:36:14 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
[quote=Warmonger Simon]
Also don't forget you can run missions to help other people get standing and get paid decently for it. There's a couple of services that needs mission running pilots for it.


Already on mailing list for that one :) Though most of stuff like caldari navy/lai dai/amarr navy didn't really resonate me lately too far away. And imo blitzing 3's is better for somebody who want's to do that service.
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1097 - 2016-04-21 18:39:05 UTC
saw you a few days ago with a garmur around osmon and later saw the loss.
didn´t u use dock/undocks ?

and for traveleling always fit inertias and/or nano
Warmonger Simon
Trinity Alpha Zero
#1098 - 2016-04-21 18:47:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Warmonger Simon
Ploing wrote:
saw you a few days ago with a garmur around osmon and later saw the loss.
didn´t u use dock/undocks ?

and for traveleling always fit inertias and/or nano


Ya that was my bad on that part, only recently came back. I've already moved out of SoE systems and am doing missions in 0.47 true sec with 2-2.5k LP Sell order ratio or 1.6k on buy orders plus system is dead end and in general great spot/pretty empty with few occasional miners around. Was on my way to do anomic team when i got popped
Ploing
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#1099 - 2016-04-21 18:54:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ploing
Warmonger Simon wrote:
Ploing wrote:
saw you a few days ago with a garmur around osmon and later saw the loss.
didn´t u use dock/undocks ?

and for traveleling always fit inertias and/or nano


Ya that was my bad on that part, only recently came back. I've already moved out of SoE systems and am doing missions in 0.47 true sec with 2-2.5k LP Sell order ratio or 1.6k on buy orders plus system is dead end and in general great spot/pretty empty with few occasional miners around. Was on my way to do anomic team when i got popped


did you popped during the acceleration to the next gate or did u fiddle around a bit? had an expierience few month ago with a traffic control in an not heavy populated system which cost me about 500 mill.
Warmonger Simon
Trinity Alpha Zero
#1100 - 2016-04-21 18:55:38 UTC
During accelaration to gate.