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Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings

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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#61 - 2014-08-27 18:01:48 UTC
I love all these fits with no prop mod.
Genoir
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#62 - 2014-08-27 18:07:36 UTC
Archetype 66 wrote:

And the Angel Dramiel with that (1min20. Also I got AF lvl IV only ^^) :

[Vengeance, Angel burner]
Explosive Plating II
Ballistic Control System II
Small Armor Repairer II
Ballistic Control System II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
[empty high slot]
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II


I just managed the Angel burner with this, it died the same second that my o/h SAR did which was nice. Thanks for the advice.
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#63 - 2014-08-27 18:08:52 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
I love all these fits with no prop mod.

Because a prop mod is so much help when you are scrammed from 20km and webbed from 50. Of from 20, but with 90% strength. Or when a rat ABs at 3,5 km/s.
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#64 - 2014-08-27 18:41:56 UTC
I just completed the Serpentis Burner in a T2 fitted Hawk. I used jacudz's video (thanks btw) as a guide but he used almost 300mil worth of pimp on his Hawk which I just can't do cause I'm doing these missions in lowsec where getting blapped on a station/gate is a very real possibility. You need to heat your web in order to reach him since he orbits at around 11km, but I had just about enough heat on my web to web him the whole fight (Thermodynamics V) and I also put some heat on my weapons to finish him off quicker and consumed about 4 or 5 cap boosters throughout the whole fight. Didn't record a time to kill but it's cheap and it works and that's all that matters to me.

Here's the fit I used:

[Hawk, Serpentis Burner No Pimp]

Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II

Medium Shield Booster II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Dirt cheap at 36.8mil.

Once I get the other Burner missions I'll test out other cheap fits to accomplish em, I'm hoping to be able to afford a set of dedicated 'Burner' running frigs which can complete all the Burner missions for less than 100mil.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2014-08-27 20:34:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
I cannot seem to find the answer to this elsewhere, so my apologies if it has been answered or is common knowledge..

Will ANY level 4 security agent offer these missions, or is it just the pirate factions?

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
#66 - 2014-08-27 20:42:59 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
I cannot seem to find the answer to this elsewhere, so my apologies if it has been answered or is common knowledge..

Will ANY level 4 security agent offer these missions, or is it just the pirate factions?


Any agent.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#67 - 2014-08-27 20:47:07 UTC
Torgeir Hekard wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
I love all these fits with no prop mod.

Because a prop mod is so much help when you are scrammed from 20km and webbed from 50. Of from 20, but with 90% strength. Or when a rat ABs at 3,5 km/s.


Yes, it is. You're doing it wrong. It's called sling-shotting. Learn to PVP.
Lugalzagezi666
#68 - 2014-08-27 21:06:00 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Torgeir Hekard wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
I love all these fits with no prop mod.

Because a prop mod is so much help when you are scrammed from 20km and webbed from 50. Of from 20, but with 90% strength. Or when a rat ABs at 3,5 km/s.


Yes, it is. You're doing it wrong. It's called sling-shotting. Learn to PVP.

LolLolLol
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2014-08-27 21:52:39 UTC
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Torgeir Hekard wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
I love all these fits with no prop mod.

Because a prop mod is so much help when you are scrammed from 20km and webbed from 50. Of from 20, but with 90% strength. Or when a rat ABs at 3,5 km/s.


Yes, it is. You're doing it wrong. It's called sling-shotting. Learn to PVP.

LolLolLol


Not empty quoting.

I do love armchair experts who have patently never even been on grid with just one of these.

Or have not read the dev post that they are NOTHING like PvP.


Slingshot indeed. LOL
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#70 - 2014-08-27 22:15:10 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Torgeir Hekard wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
I love all these fits with no prop mod.

Because a prop mod is so much help when you are scrammed from 20km and webbed from 50. Of from 20, but with 90% strength. Or when a rat ABs at 3,5 km/s.


Yes, it is. You're doing it wrong. It's called sling-shotting. Learn to PVP.



Not sure the last time I PvP and didn't need a point to hold the guy to the field.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#71 - 2014-08-27 22:17:42 UTC
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
I cannot seem to find the answer to this elsewhere, so my apologies if it has been answered or is common knowledge..

Will ANY level 4 security agent offer these missions, or is it just the pirate factions?


Any agent.


Thanks mate.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#72 - 2014-08-28 03:37:29 UTC
afkalt wrote:
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Torgeir Hekard wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
I love all these fits with no prop mod.

Because a prop mod is so much help when you are scrammed from 20km and webbed from 50. Of from 20, but with 90% strength. Or when a rat ABs at 3,5 km/s.


Yes, it is. You're doing it wrong. It's called sling-shotting. Learn to PVP.

LolLolLol


Not empty quoting.

I do love armchair experts who have patently never even been on grid with just one of these.

Or have not read the dev post that they are NOTHING like PvP.


Slingshot indeed. LOL


Protip: A prop mod won't save you from a 90% web, even in PvP.
jackudza
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#73 - 2014-08-28 03:48:45 UTC
Added Guristas Anomic Site video.
T2 fit only ;)
jackudza
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#74 - 2014-08-28 04:27:27 UTC
Apocalypse Solar wrote:

The Dramiel in the video seems to be doing very low damage ... I fought this earlier and was getting hit almost twice as hard with 90% explosive resists.

Did you record this before they buffed this encounter?


[Vengeance]
Small Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
[empty high slot]

Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Just did it with the above T2 fit without any problem. 1:30 ;)
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2014-08-28 06:39:46 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:

Protip: A prop mod won't save you from a 90% web, even in PvP.


It'll delay/prevent entirely you getting caught though. Not so with the burners given where you warp in.


Bottom line is these ships and the fits needed to kill them are nothing like PvP. That is a shame to me, but true regardless.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2014-08-28 10:00:33 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
want excitement? Go PVP.. go hunt people and get money from their drops.

I find funnyt hat carebears complain missions are not exciting and have no risk or need of skill then they say.. noo no pvp, pvp has risk and you nee too much skill.


Said hisec gank monkey...



highsec ganking? Seems you are as incultured as you can be. Check killboard.. see if there is ANY single concord kill on my ships, In the whole alliance you should probably find 2-3 at most in all its history.

Postign when you have no clue just make you look dumb.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
#77 - 2014-08-28 13:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik
I'm still finding my own true solo fits (I like to explore the options myself Smile), but I can already see how burners can be farmed without any risk - a Griffin alt (tested on SiSi). Multiboxers could just spam Griffins as well without even bothering to have different ship types or shiny modules.

Sure, the rat will try to burn when its jammed, but nothing that your main DPS ship or Griffin swarm can not handle with a MWD and a web.

(edit: I tested this on Serpentis rat, but should be doable for all)
Lugalzagezi666
#78 - 2014-08-28 13:48:21 UTC
If you got alt that can fly any of the good faction/assault frigs, dont waste your time with griffin, just blob the burner with two 300+ dps frigs (one of them being dd is best imo), he will die in no time.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#79 - 2014-08-28 15:56:05 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:


Protip: A prop mod won't save you from a 90% web, even in PvP.


Bull, I've slingshotted out of point range many times in PvP. Only time it failed was when I was up against a skilled opponent who knew how to manually pilot his ship.

As far as the burners go they use a predictable AI. So tactics that work against real players will work on them.
Lugalzagezi666
#80 - 2014-08-28 16:43:09 UTC
Go slingshot a daredevil sitting at warp in small plex then and dont waste your uber pvp knowledge in missions forum.