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Unscheduled Downtime - 22/08/2014

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-08-22 00:41:48 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Thatt Guy wrote:
CCP rakes in millions and millions a year, yet they can't defend a ddos attack.

You don't fully understand how the internet works, do you?


It was a limited DDoS at that. The exefile in the /bin folder still got a connection.
mc pizzaflurry
Ground Zero Equipment
#62 - 2014-08-22 00:44:12 UTC
45thtiger 0109 wrote:
Ahazul De'Virr wrote:
Hi

What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?

best regards

//Ahazul


Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control.

If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships Big smile



you mean "scriptkiddies"
Yang Aurilen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#63 - 2014-08-22 00:45:21 UTC
mc pizzaflurry wrote:
45thtiger 0109 wrote:
Ahazul De'Virr wrote:
Hi

What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?

best regards

//Ahazul


Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control.

If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships Big smile



you mean "scriptkiddies"


You mean Hackers on Steroids with exploding vans nearby.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2014-08-22 00:50:06 UTC
Owin Forsyth wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Thatt Guy wrote:
Sorry I didn't know that a ddos is the unstoppable beast that haunts the internet and nothing can stop it! Roll

Boy I'm sure glad you cleared that up!



I instead challenge you to provide a method or an example of one that was able to stop one.


There are several companies that provide DDoS protection, just do a Google search 'DDoS Protection'. One such company is VeriSign, a well known international company.

As far as what one can do in the event of a DDoS attack, you can also try Google and Wikipedia, The info below is a c&p of a small section of that page from Wikipedia. You'll need to go to Wikipedia for more detailed information.

"Handling
Defensive responses to denial-of-service attacks typically involves the use of a combination of attack detection, traffic classification and response tools, aiming to block traffic that they identify as illegitimate and allow traffic that they identify as legitimate"

Companies can also buy insurance against such attacks.

DDoS is nothing new, it is quite old school really, and there's lots of information on the net about it, how to prevent it, and how to stop it.



Yeah, you can call +1-703-763-4544 for a fast response in UK from VeriSign or spend between 120,000 up to 8 million dollars on some hardware from Arbor, depending on how much you want to spend, how much you have and how important is your internet business.

Old school but, still, effective against some, I guess.

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)

Thegasp Cupcakes
CareBears Gone Dark
#65 - 2014-08-22 00:55:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Thegasp Cupcakes
This is basically what happens during a DDoS attack, for the ones who simply don't get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxmrcfbklVg#t=33

(yes, it is the right video..)
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2014-08-22 00:56:33 UTC
Thatt Guy wrote:
Suck up harder, there might be an ISK Scorpion in it for you! (hey worked before right?)


/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.



After reading your posts, one could be forgiven for suspecting you of being the script kiddie responsible for the attacks, attempting to use ideology to justify them but knowing deep down that you just want some attention. Whether that's true or not, people pay money to play this game not because they don't have a choice, not because the company makes them, but because they want to. Whether someone is trying to send an ideological message or just make CCP look bad, the question of whether or not they should be able to defend against a DDOS is irrelevant next to the more pertinent question of what sort of shitstain makes an attack against gamers like this in the first place?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Valenthe de Celine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-08-22 00:59:17 UTC
I think CCP handed this one in record time compared to the ones around 14 months ago, around the time Odyssey launched. They dealt with some DDoSholes back then, too. Business and game went on as normal after that. It will go on as normal after this as well.

I find it amusing that it takes DDoS attacks to bring this game offline, when I know plenty of MMORPGs out there that crash and have to be reset on their own due to faults in their code. CCP is pretty damn good about keeping that sort of thing away from their game and us, their customers.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#68 - 2014-08-22 00:59:40 UTC
Laughing at the guys who were calling DDoS "an old school trick" or saying that it can be easily circumvented.

There's a reason stuff like that is still around. It works.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Valenthe de Celine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2014-08-22 01:07:29 UTC
Thatt Guy wrote:
/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.


You know, I have to wonder who's pulling on your chain. You seem really eager to support those attacking this company and this game, and really eager to attack those of us who are still loyal to a form of entertainment we enjoy. Jealous of us much?
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2014-08-22 01:10:41 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Laughing at the guys who were calling DDoS "an old school trick" or saying that it can be easily circumvented.

There's a reason stuff like that is still around. It works.


I'm only a random NPC Alt, my opinion doesn't matter. Blink

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)

Valenthe de Celine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2014-08-22 01:12:27 UTC
Bloody Slave wrote:
I'm only a random NPC Alt, my opinion doesn't matter. Blink


Wow, dude, I just have to say it... Nice stache!
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2014-08-22 01:14:15 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Laughing at the guys who were calling DDoS "an old school trick" or saying that it can be easily circumvented.

There's a reason stuff like that is still around. It works.


Signed data packets could be filtered and everything else rejected.
Daniel Jackson
Universal Exos
#73 - 2014-08-22 01:41:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Jackson
for people who want to learn the details about DDoS attacks go here http://www.incapsula.com/ddos/ddos-attacks/

CCP should read it too, it has some clues on how to prevent most of them
Kudoku
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-08-22 01:50:39 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Laughing at the guys who were calling DDoS "an old school trick" or saying that it can be easily circumvented.

There's a reason stuff like that is still around. It works.


DoS is oldschool. DDoS is newer. the thing that most people don't realize, is that DDoS is a blanket term for a type of attack. the actual mechanics of the attack evolve constantly whenever an amplification exploit is discovered.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#75 - 2014-08-22 01:53:46 UTC
Thatt Guy wrote:
Oh well, guess nobody wanted to play Eve today anyways...

Going to write a letter about how my credit card companies website got ddos'd so I can't pay sub fee this month.

But I'm sure since CCP can't deliver the product I pay for due to ddos, they will certainly understand when they don't get their payment for the same reason, so I should be good...right?

Yup, I'm sure they will understand.



Soo......

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Can...

Can I have your stuff?

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Daniel Jackson
Universal Exos
#76 - 2014-08-22 02:03:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Jackson
you can see when the attacks happened in the past 24 hours chart

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

first you see downtime and then u see the attacks
45thtiger 0109
Brave Collective
#77 - 2014-08-22 02:12:31 UTC
mc pizzaflurry wrote:
45thtiger 0109 wrote:
Ahazul De'Virr wrote:
Hi

What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?

best regards

//Ahazul


Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control.

If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships Big smile



you mean "scriptkiddies"


Yes I do mean that as well "scriptkiddies" X

**You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good.

Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**

45thtiger 0109
Brave Collective
#78 - 2014-08-22 02:17:40 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
mc pizzaflurry wrote:
45thtiger 0109 wrote:
Ahazul De'Virr wrote:
Hi

What about ship losses due to ddos attack ? Are they will be reimbursed?

best regards

//Ahazul


Umm nope there is no reimbursement as it is outside CCP control.

If you want reimbursement go to the DDos hackers and ask the for your reimbursement for the lost ships Big smile



you mean "scriptkiddies"


You mean Hackers on Steroids with exploding vans nearby.


LolCool lolled

**You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good.

Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2014-08-22 02:26:40 UTC
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:
reinstalling Eve because of the DDoS attack

You're dumb.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Kudoku
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2014-08-22 02:29:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Kudoku
Daniel Jackson wrote:
you can see when the attacks happened in the past 24 hours chart

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

first you see downtime and then u see the attacks


this is what it looked like from LA.