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Unscheduled Downtime - 22/08/2014

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#381 - 2014-08-22 13:09:26 UTC
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Wish this DDOS'r would use his botnet to target someone who deserves it. But I'm having trouble of thinking of who that would be.


Comcast?

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
momo Isimazu
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#382 - 2014-08-22 13:09:26 UTC
I think CCP pissed off the Russians.
Solecist Project
#383 - 2014-08-22 13:09:57 UTC
It's hilarious that people who have no clue how things work ...
... believe they should have an opinion.

Scrubs.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#384 - 2014-08-22 13:10:36 UTC
Amhra Rho wrote:
Amanda Orion wrote:

It is not quite true to say there is nothing that can be done against a DDOS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYN_cookies


Exactly. DDoS is such a mundane, everyday predictable attack, you can just pick up a security appliance like this Checkpoint CPAP-DP4412 and drop it into your rack.

Will it work? For this last amateurish attack, yeah, it might be all you'll need. If not - as I've stated before - there's dozens of other highly effective strategies you can deploy. European castle, Asian castle, pre-filtering through your gateway load balancers (if you deploy load balancers), targeted stateful packet inspection from your primary firewall, or your secondary firewall, or both, etc.

Easy, yes. Cheap, no. That Checkpoint appliance alone runs about USD 70K. You can almost buy a Tesla for that.

It's an absurd notion that you can't utterly defeat a script kiddy DDoS attack. Amazon.com is victimized by DDoS all the time and it's never down. Microsoft.com is the most hacked/attacked site on the internet and it has been for 20 years, but it's never down. Never. They couldn't care less about DDoS attacks because they've deployed many layers of defenses against it. Microsoft.com was happy to have a Bill Gates budget to do it, though.

I'm confused...how do you even know what kind of attack it was and who did it?
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#385 - 2014-08-22 13:27:53 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
Amhra Rho wrote:
Amanda Orion wrote:

It is not quite true to say there is nothing that can be done against a DDOS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYN_cookies


Exactly. DDoS is such a mundane, everyday predictable attack, you can just pick up a security appliance like this Checkpoint CPAP-DP4412 and drop it into your rack.

Will it work? For this last amateurish attack, yeah, it might be all you'll need. If not - as I've stated before - there's dozens of other highly effective strategies you can deploy. European castle, Asian castle, pre-filtering through your gateway load balancers (if you deploy load balancers), targeted stateful packet inspection from your primary firewall, or your secondary firewall, or both, etc.

Easy, yes. Cheap, no. That Checkpoint appliance alone runs about USD 70K. You can almost buy a Tesla for that.

It's an absurd notion that you can't utterly defeat a script kiddy DDoS attack. Amazon.com is victimized by DDoS all the time and it's never down. Microsoft.com is the most hacked/attacked site on the internet and it has been for 20 years, but it's never down. Never. They couldn't care less about DDoS attacks because they've deployed many layers of defenses against it. Microsoft.com was happy to have a Bill Gates budget to do it, though.

I'm confused...how do you even know what kind of attack it was and who did it?

Because CCP confirmed the type of attack (not that they needed to - it was pretty obvious), and the script kiddies themselves came to the kitchen table with sticky hands.

There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#386 - 2014-08-22 14:09:39 UTC
its died again, nothing via exe or via launcher, in UK.
Sneekeypete NZXT
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#387 - 2014-08-22 14:10:26 UTC
So I'm guessing Eve just took a dive again.
111kartel111
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#388 - 2014-08-22 14:10:33 UTC
Crashed again here also US east coast.
Enthropic
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#389 - 2014-08-22 14:10:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Enthropic
Its Bob's will, Fozzie ;)

edit: and apparently the server is up again
Partricia Solette
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
#390 - 2014-08-22 14:11:37 UTC
ok who pressed the wrong button???
Steijn
Quay Industries
#391 - 2014-08-22 14:12:15 UTC
instead of #SSDD its #SSA (Somer strikes again)
April Chriqui
I want my loot back
#392 - 2014-08-22 14:12:46 UTC
Did you guys remember to feed the hampsters???
111kartel111
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#393 - 2014-08-22 14:13:31 UTC
Steijn wrote:
instead of #SSDD its #SSA (Somer strikes again)


^^^^^ This ^^^^^
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#394 - 2014-08-22 14:15:19 UTC
And some people here were saying we shouldn't jail these twerps. Really?

There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance.
Sneekeypete NZXT
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#395 - 2014-08-22 14:15:32 UTC
Amhra Rho wrote:
Amanda Orion wrote:

It is not quite true to say there is nothing that can be done against a DDOS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYN_cookies


Exactly. DDoS is such a mundane, everyday predictable attack, you can just pick up a security appliance like this Checkpoint CPAP-DP4412 and drop it into your rack.

Will it work? For this last amateurish attack, yeah, it might be all you'll need. If not - as I've stated before - there's dozens of other highly effective strategies you can deploy. European castle, Asian castle, pre-filtering through your gateway load balancers (if you deploy load balancers), targeted stateful packet inspection from your primary firewall, or your secondary firewall, or both, etc.

Easy, yes. Cheap, no. That Checkpoint appliance alone runs about USD 70K. You can almost buy a Tesla for that.

It's an absurd notion that you can't utterly defeat a script kiddy DDoS attack. Amazon.com is victimized by DDoS all the time and it's never down. Microsoft.com is the most hacked/attacked site on the internet and it has been for 20 years, but it's never down. Never. They couldn't care less about DDoS attacks because they've deployed many layers of defenses against it. Microsoft.com was happy to have a Bill Gates budget to do it, though.



Ha, I'm a Sr. NOC Engineer and I'm currently looking at the health status of our checkpoint appliance. And yea these people need to google what the hel a load balancer is.
Metawulf
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#396 - 2014-08-22 14:15:44 UTC
momo Isimazu wrote:
I think CCP pissed off the Russians.

Why always russians? We are not villains!
Not everyone at least. Not today, at least. Putin said I can have a day-off today.
Josef Djugashvilis
#397 - 2014-08-22 14:16:02 UTC
Down again in the UK?

Time 15.30

This is not a signature.
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#398 - 2014-08-22 14:16:44 UTC
Ok i've had enough now...grrrrrrr goons (well they get blamed for everything else) I'm off to the pub for stress relief :-)

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#399 - 2014-08-22 14:16:51 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Down again in the UK?

Time 15.30


launcher just came back in UK, not tried logging in yet, i'll wait.
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#400 - 2014-08-22 14:17:56 UTC
https://www.facebook.com/TheMittani/posts/681403171912597?stream_ref=10

This is why it is happening - insight provided from the "anti-ganking" channel leader.