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Unscheduled Downtime - 22/08/2014

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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#341 - 2014-08-22 09:52:56 UTC
Telis Guevera wrote:
Sneekeypete NZXT wrote:
Fabulous Visage wrote:
People who are whining about it's CCP's fault for not able to play the game. THERE IS LITTLE THEY CAN DO AGAINST A DDOS!

Ddos are cheap yet terrible effective, They will clog up servers with packages. And if the server migrates and the scriptkiddies want to keep it down they just move their attacks to the new location.



I played world of warcraft for 8 years and they never lost the servers due to a DDoS attack.


I also played WoW and there is no need for DDoS because Blizzard would bust their servers by themselves often enough.


Blizzard was spanked like a couple of months ago.
Amanda Orion
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#342 - 2014-08-22 10:07:07 UTC

It is not quite true to say there is nothing that can be done against a DDOS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDoS_mitigation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYN_cookies
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#343 - 2014-08-22 10:07:31 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Thatt Guy wrote:
Suck up harder, there might be an ISK Scorpion in it for you! (hey worked before right?)


/done arguing with fanboys that will brown-nose no matter what, enjoy your circle-jerk.



After reading your posts, one could be forgiven for suspecting you of being the script kiddie responsible for the attacks, attempting to use ideology to justify them but knowing deep down that you just want some attention. Whether that's true or not, people pay money to play this game not because they don't have a choice, not because the company makes them, but because they want to. Whether someone is trying to send an ideological message or just make CCP look bad, the question of whether or not they should be able to defend against a DDOS is irrelevant next to the more pertinent question of what sort of shitstain makes an attack against gamers like this in the first place?


what viable targets like
Banks, Governments & suchlike ....



there's serious jail time attached to those targets
games companies is just a slapped wrist in comparison
Josef Djugashvilis
#344 - 2014-08-22 10:27:51 UTC
I demand some sort of compensation - I had to leave my basement for a few hours.

Does the above now make me a 'real' Eve Online player?

Joking, of course.

Well done CCP getting us up and running again.

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Kaaii
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
#345 - 2014-08-22 10:39:38 UTC


CCP 1 / Script kiddies 0


Big smile
Josef Djugashvilis
#346 - 2014-08-22 10:43:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
nm Kain wrote:
Throughout the day the servers have been terribly unstable and it seems to be continuing into the night. Is CCP going to fix this DDoS crap or are we destined to be unable to play for days? It's seriously not hard to safeguard against a DDoS.


I am sure CCP would be happy to pay you handsomely if you can provide 100% DDoS protection for them.

Until then, please stop making a complete fool of yourself in the forums.

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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#347 - 2014-08-22 10:44:55 UTC
Fabulous Visage wrote:
I'm drinking my tea FURIOUS! SIPPING IT WITH ANGER AND HATE!


I think I found your face during your tea drinking..

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Emiko P'eng
#348 - 2014-08-22 10:47:33 UTC
Humm!

Tranquility - Attacked!
Dust 514 - Severely down on players at similar times, so I am assumed it was Attacked!
Serenity - Still Down starting at a similar time, so I am assumed it was attacked and has not yet recovered!
Forums - Difficult to get onto last night, so I assume they were part of the attack!

EVE-Offline & Dust514 Status Monitor
CCP must have right royally pissed someone off to get such a comprehensive and sustained attack Sad

My money would be on an ex-SomerBlink Customer
Beta Maoye
#349 - 2014-08-22 10:58:25 UTC
Where do they find so many computers to use for their attack?
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#350 - 2014-08-22 11:03:19 UTC
You can scrub the traffic through a router farm dedicated to doing just that, using complex algorithms to mostly separate the bad and drop it while still sending the good on it's way.

But it's not something you just wave a wand and put in place.

It can be prohibitively expensive. It requires a break-in and development period where the scrubbers are programmed and tweaked for the specific network traffic they need to identify as safe and normal. On top of that you need specialized staff knowing how to adapt the programing to react to the various types of ddos that can be seen as well.

There's always a solution. It just isn't always an easy one, or realistic.

If I can offer you a suggestion:

you could contact tourny teams NOW and have them start accessing a separate IP caching website tonight/tomorrow
(and again if they think their IP has changed at any point)

Use that site to pool lists of source /24s for all the teams players.

Depending on how awesome your networking team is on the fly, you can inject communities with your upstream providers to just poison ALL routes to the cluster before it ever even reaches you....except that select list of /24s the team players are on.

Doesn't help the rest of the playerbase, but would work for 'the show must go on' tomorrow.

"The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain."
Solecist Project
#351 - 2014-08-22 11:06:54 UTC
Beta Maoye wrote:
Where do they find so many computers to use for their attack?

Infected PCs.


My tertiary connection gets affected now ... secondary still works ...
... are the servers getting attacked again?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#352 - 2014-08-22 11:08:38 UTC
Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:
You can scrub the traffic through a router farm dedicated to doing just that, using complex algorithms to mostly separate the bad and drop it while still sending the good on it's way.

So what's the overhead of these "complex algorithms"?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#353 - 2014-08-22 11:09:40 UTC
Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Sylar Dragonfly
State War Academy
Caldari State
#354 - 2014-08-22 11:13:26 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP.


its called downtime
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#355 - 2014-08-22 11:13:34 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP.

...hmm
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#356 - 2014-08-22 11:15:07 UTC
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP.


its called downtime

Really? Wow, I didn't know about that!

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Sylar Dragonfly
State War Academy
Caldari State
#357 - 2014-08-22 11:16:48 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP.


its called downtime

Really? Wow, I didn't know about that!


I am not surprised by this
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#358 - 2014-08-22 11:19:17 UTC
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP.


its called downtime

Really? Wow, I didn't know about that!


I am not surprised by this

I'm surprised you still haven't realized I was being sarcastic.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#359 - 2014-08-22 11:30:00 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP.


its called downtime

Really? Wow, I didn't know about that!


I am not surprised by this

I'm surprised you still haven't realized I was being sarcastic.

and in both timesLol

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Sylar Dragonfly
State War Academy
Caldari State
#360 - 2014-08-22 11:31:13 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Sylar Dragonfly wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Yeah the servers went offline again 9 minutes ago, great job CCP.


its called downtime

Really? Wow, I didn't know about that!


I am not surprised by this

I'm surprised you still haven't realized I was being sarcastic.


The feeling is mutual.