Wormholes

I have to say I like this change to W-space. C4s are always quiet when scanning and warping fleet through. They are often overlooked by corps because you are unable to cap escalate. I agree with CCPs thesis that by adding a second static not only will C4 systems become more popular for corps to live in, but it will also increase their traffic and thus more PVP.

Thank you CCP


On a side note:

CCP I have a suggestion. If you find it feasible, split the CSM into three smaller CSM councils of three or four people. One for Null, Lowsec and W-space. They would all have the same duties as the current incarnation of the CSM does, but they would also represent their own areas of space. Null would have no responsibilities nor any say in W-space or Lowsec. And the other two councils would follow the same guidelines respectively. Also with this paradigm for CSM it would break the sheer numbers that Null Alliances have to control the vote for the majority of the CSM. It would give other organizations to have a primary voice.

If ccp increases the profit in c4's (now that there is more risk) i think the opposite Wil happen. More people will move into c4's. More targets and easier to fund pvp.However if the current rate of reward stays id have to agree with more people will move out of c4 space.

Well, I'd be surprised if CCP is going to get any more useful feedback out of this thread at this point, so I propose we start digging for as much info as we can get on the new static types and where to expect them. They said it won't be as obvious as C2s are, but there will be patters. What have we seen on SISI so far guys?

I'm sorry did you interact with us before?

That's the problem, CCP have not said anything about increasing the payout. So expect C4s to be even more empty then they are now.

^^^ This. Exactly. C4s ae already bad enough. Low profit, but usually need a group of ships. Granted, some have figured out how to solo them with better skills - either LP based or real strategy, or both - but C4s seem to be the best place for a small to midsize group of players to get their first experience in Wormhole space. They are much less desirable because of the profit to risk margin already. It's easy for a less skilled player to solo a c3 and receive slightly less isk than it takes a group of ships to achieve in c4. The lack of profit differential means people will multibox the sites to try to pull the extra DPS and slightly higher isk solo, but it still requires making enough to plex more than the one account, and greatly increases the risk. Please don't confuse this post for an invitation to spam "Well, maybe they should stick to level 4 missions or go rent a crap system in the drone regions" stuff. There SHOULD be a way for people to get their feet wet in wormhole space to see if it is right for them. The answer to this is NOT to increase the amount of statics from a c4 and increase the traffic THROUGH them... Cause even though the number off jumps THROUGH them COULD (in theory only) be higher, but the number of deaths, events and NPC kills will plummet. Very few pvp-minded people reside in c4 space. Because c4 space sucks. And this is going to make it less appealing for people to try to squat in, not more. If people aren't squatting there then there won't be many worthwhile kills in there. And with the new mechanics involving k162s only appearing once somebody from the originating system jumps through them, the travel routes won't be nearly as plentiful as people think. Cause the carebear-ish ones who stay won't be dumb enough to activate them until they actually WANT to use them, and will wait til the end of life so they have enough time to just go do what they need and get back, minimizing the time the hole is actually available from outside.

The answer to improving both life AND pvp opportunities in c4 Wspace is nothing less than improving profitability in one way or another. Keep people in them, give them reasons to use shiny stuff in stupid ways. I think the best bet for this would be to activate cap escalations for c4s, or just simply increase loot for the sleepers. People are already dumb enough to build caps in a hole they can't get them out of. Give them a reason to actually lose them in there. Either way, if you want c4s to not be useless and unpopulated with few good fights, you improve them. The current proposal seems to be the exact opposite of what they want to see happening.

Add C5+ gases to C4 systems

Throwing out ideas :D idk how to put more isk to C4. More anomalies? BEtter blue payouts?

Nice "pvp" content. Is someone really going after ventures?

I would like to add a suggestion, once one rebalances the C1 to C4 wormholes this might be a good idea. See below

There is an issue in c3 and More particularly C4 wormholes that small corporations ALL have times of day when there may only be a single player on.

This means for that player, after scanning out everything possible, his only choices are to wait for others, or escape to HIsec or null for their income opportunities.

The suggestion is the spawning of signature sites (not anomalies) suitable for a skilled single player in additional to the existing ones, not vast numbers, but enough to give some interest and income in those off times.

Keep them able to be completed reasonably quickly with a little more emphasis on blue loot, as the likelihood of being disturbed is high.

This will encourage the continuous working of wormholes through most of the day, rather than just peak times.
And encourage players to live and work wormhole space rather than having to have a part time job in Kspace.