Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Given the ship restrictions is the large size still required?

Good point, i was actually thinking of the hypersptial accelerator as a comparison so maybe that needs to be bigger too.

This isn't about PL's hot drop getting go-go-gadget length though. This is about easing logistics for rorquals and jump freighters.

Part of the point of capital ships is you need people to back you up, even if they are alts. They don't function independently and as such should not be cheap to maintain, Its not hard to afford fuel for a carrier or a Jump freighter even after to 50% buff to consumption. Thats the bane of small corp carriers and such, you just dont have the same assets and liquid capital as larger groups and as such have to adapt to maintain your style of life.

And i agree heavy water needs some more use, but ozone is fine since you need it for cynos and POS Fuel.

These were not mentioned in the dev blog about what's coming in Hyperion. Are they not making it in?

I noticed that I haven't commented on them anywhere. I love the idea of these modules. They meet their goal of creating more options. They don't actually solve huge problems, but they do create more options and I will definitely be using them if they come out.

Reading this thread I would say that commentary on them is either positive, or unrelated discourses about how other ideas could also fix the problems that these modules address, and comments about details of the size of the modules or their bonuses or whatever. But overall, nobody has said these things are a bad idea. They're a good idea. Unless it takes 500 people hundreds of hours to implement them, please do. I sincerely hope they make it in with Hyperion. Since I don't do wormholes, there's really not anything in Hyperion for me to get excited about other than these modules. If they make it in, I will be very excited.

In my view, the large volume of these things may succeed in preventing exploitation by big capital fleets. The bonuses they provide are appropriate to their general application. If you wanted to increase the bonuses you may have to put in some hard controls (JFs and Rorqs only). But as originally presented I like them and I doubt they will be exploited by the big cap groups and they will be a nice boon to the little guy JF and Rorq users like me.

Just my two cents.

Still just loving Crius folks. Incredible improvement to indy.

I'd support making them smaller....say 1000m3, but it really doesn't make that much of a difference.

So what's the reasoning behind making them Rorq/JF only

Please add modules that are interesting for players to chose, with these new modules it will literally be:

Can I remove a cargo expander? Yes: Okay, fit another conservation module. Repeat.

This aren't exciting decisions for a pilot to make, they just add more boringness to an already boring process (moving things around).

that doesn't mean they shouldn't i'd like to see each of the different meta levels do something a little different so it isn't just the meta 4 being used

I assume the original reason for having the 3500m size was to give a hard choice to cap pilots with limited room to carry them if not fitted. But now that they are limited to JFs and Rorqs can their size come down?

Virtually, every JF will be carrying 3 of these, with really the only other choice (when a jump is occurring, as opposed to slow boating through high sec), being the expanded cargohold when you have a large cargo. So losing 10500m3 to carry them for the return journey is a poor option.