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It's well known that many ppl play with different windows simultaneously logged on, in windowed mode ofcourse. My monitor's max reslution is 1440x900, consequently, the window's size is even smaller. And around 1/3 of it now taken by some obnoxiously-flashy, useless panel, which single purpose is to... show the chosen blueprint. Tnanks, but my vision is not so bad yet. It has to be reduced in size at least 2-3 times.

And I can't even resize this window, so I can't access controls at its bottom from windowed mode. It's just simply horrible design that should be trown up right to the mobile apllication garbage pile. I don't need such horrible case of trade of usability for visual appearance on my PC.

sorry mate, but you're wrong, and my four nag bpos that were ME5 five days ago and I installed into research three days ago and will come out of research at ME10% confirm you're wrong

don't ever try to argue game mechanics with a goon you will always lose

blueprints in research on patch day had their base change, then when the job is done you get however many levels you researched

so a ME6 orca put into research to ME7 three days ago would come out perfect (6->9%, then 1 level = 10%)

game, set, match, mr. aveymone

My most important grudge comes from the UI, and therefore, anything else is positive by my standard.

Overall, I think some points of the new industry UI are overly simplified, especially when compared to the bits presented in the various devblogs (yes I know it was tentative UI, but I don't understand why it has been oversimplified). I also have issues with the new blueprint's show info, and from a more general point of view I think CCP missed the opportunity of clarifying up the station UI, especially with upgrade.

In a nutshell, I think that CCP did the same thing as always. They unnecessarily obfuscate informations that are critical to the players while making useless information visible instead. This whole thing make the industry UI feeling rushed and unpolished to the point that I wonder if someone really take the time to think what should be displayed and what should not.
More generally, this is a perfect case of good complexity vs bad complexity (if you want to use recent buzzwords) where discoverability is crippled by hiding core informations while promoting useless ones. The fact is that the relentless player will eventually figures out how to deduce these core informations, so there is no point in hiding them. Player will just spend their time searching for informations rather than optimizing their setup, which was one of the motivation behind the industry revamp.
In my opinion, the issue will only aggravate with time as devblogs will get forgotten. I am particularly concerned about new players' experience in a year or so when most of the relevant informations about crius will require extensive research to get.

The following is a bullet-point list of what bug me the most with the UI. These points are merely examples that illustrate my general concerns. I am far from having explored all the UI novelties in Crius. Nonetheless, these are the most pressing issues I have with the UI.

• System Cost indexes : First, the only way to get numerical value is to go to World Map control Panel -> Star Map -> Stars -> Industry -> system cost index. This is incredibly complicated for a value that is supposed to be the principal factor in deciding where to settle industrial production. I understand the logic behind putting it there, but it should be accessible (in a numerical form) from the industry window


• System Cost's Bar : No explanation at all about this. Right now it is near useless. Hell, I do not even know why 2R- and Jita have a full bar for manufacturing while the system cost index is clearly different. If its region-wise, say so !


• Put back Job cost modifier breakdown : When I see a pop-up I expect to have a nice recap with precise values. Right now, all I got is the unexpressive system cost's bar. What happened to the nice breakdown shown in devblogs ? Hiding this kind of informations from plain sigh is good. Simply removing them is a terrible idea. We are supposed to optimize this value, how is that supposed to be if we only have a red bar and an obscure numerical value hidden in the star map. Give us precise calculation, base cost, percent modifier and all the stuff advertised in the devblogs. Even more infuriating is the fact that the thing is here for material cost.


• Blueprint details : Only one tab, I would loved to have, somewhere, base stats such as base building/research time, rank (what's the point of adding rank if you do not display it). Also, right now there is nothing that tell the naive player that research time actually increase with level because of the overly simplified show info.


• Build Menu / Ship type breakdown : Over the top and outrageously visible for something so useless. What is the utility of such a precise list. Is there any location where you can build a marauder but not a BlackOps ? If it is to say that you cannot build titan/SC in station why not just put 3 categories in this list (Subcap / Cap / Super) ?


• Stations upgrades : They are sill invisible to line members (same as I-Hub upgrades) and we have to guess them from side effects. This is stupid as these upgrade are quality of life improvement for line members. We are supposed to make decisions based on which system has which upgrade, but we cannot have this knowledge from in-game client.

For the fact that it was mentioned countless times that nullsec would produce its stuff mainly in highsec and hauling minerals n stuff would be way to much work, its remarkable that about 75% of the teams sold so far went into nullsec, quite a few of them into the same Systems...
Well, highsec can still produce high volume/low profit items i guess...

If that's what this release intended it worked perfectly.

edit: nevermind

I have a previously ME3 Erebus BPC with the same issue :) another 10B added on to build cost, really great fun when you're in the middle of building the parts and now find that you need to obtain even more minerals.

Capital production is also now going to be unprofitable to anyone who didn't read the very well hidden memo regarding researching the ship BPOs to ME5 pre-patch, or anyone who had an ME3 BPO.

the excuse is you are now paying for the wages of the new NPC teams. what they forgot to think through though is you are paying this tax even if you don't use teams.

Yeah! It's really weird to pay for something you do in your own facility! Totally insane to pay 100+ million to make a BPO to ME 10% when the BPO cost 10 mill to buy!?!?! WHY F**K IT UP?!

I've been playing this game for 11 years. This is the most stupid patch ever. Well done, NOT...

Wow. Another "we must change it cuz we can" patch. Just like the unified inventory which even to this day is not as good as what it replaced. We just got enough bandaids on it that the majority of the screams died down. It did directly cost you $480 of my hard earned cash in unsubscribed toons. I'm sure I'm not the only one that closed their wallets to you at that time.

Like all others have said, the massive blueprint circle with flashing blue lines eats up 1/2 the screen with no way to make it go away. I LOL'd pretty bad when I saw it. My first thought was 'Cheesy!' It's cute and all, so I guess if you are out to attract x-box players with flashy stuff, it might work. +1000 from me for an advanced mode that shrinks that crap down to something respectable and easy to follow, or go back to what we had.

Also, on the BPO's time won't change, I call bullpucky too. I've got a Gallente Fuel Block BPO that was at 150/100 before Crisus, that only took a few hours to make 100 runs. Now it's 11+ hours??

And I'm guessing it's just cuz you want an isk sink, but why does it cost me to run a job now at my own POS? Seriously? Do I get some kinda Obamacare subsidy from the SCC since I'm paying for gas for it?

So now the best we can get is -10% and -20% respectively on our BPO's. Cut dried and simple. Takes some of the fun out for me. I always liked trying to find the best level of ME/PL. Added a challenge. Yea, it took work and thought. Now it's gone. If I wanted a mindless game I'd buy one of those x-box thingies and join the lemings.

Reading other peoples comments on here, I can see alot more things that I have not even looked at that are going to tick me off even more.

It's been an interesting 6 years in EvE. This is probably the straw for me. A few good updates, but now all it seems to be about simplifing the game. I guess that's what you want from a business perspective when attracting new kiddies to play. However, I'm sure I'm not the only long term player to be tired of these types of changes and decide it's time to quit giving you $900 a year in toon fees. I'll ride out subscriptions I've paid for, since I can't get a refund, and odds are it's time for a change.