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pushing for harder punishment on hi sec gankers

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#761 - 2014-10-06 13:49:30 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
You didn't make even the base effort to look it up on Zkill did you? If you had, you would have noticed that the guy sits in the system all day ganking shuttles, etc...
You're right I didn't, what of it? Given the size of the target you've painted on your own back the probability is fairly high that somebody will gank you sooner or later simply for being you.

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But please do continue to spout your wildly inaccurate and false opinions because you can't be bothered to do 3 minutes of research before sharing your conclusive "facts" with the world.
Firstly by its very nature an opinion can't be false or inaccurate.

opinion (in context of the post you're nitpicking)
(noun)
a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

Secondly I never stated it to be a fact, I hazarded a guess, which by its very nature is not a fact.

guess (in context of the post you're nitpicking)
(verb) (used without object)
an opinion that one reaches or to which one commits oneself on the basis of probability alone or in the absence of any evidence whatever.

L2English.

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Given this little debacle, I'm not exactly concerned about your other opinions.
Should I be bothered that you find my opinion irrelevant? You're certainly not going to shoot me over it.


Opinions can be false. If in your opinion 2+2 = 17, and verifiably 2+2 = 4, your opinion is wrong (and false as a factual matter).

Next time instead of "guessing" try to do 2 minutes of research before spouting off. And you should know that of all the people I've supposedly grated, not one has actually tried to track me down and gank me. It's just been whining, speculation, threats, and gnashing of teeth, but your ganker buddies seem to prefer AFK freighters and not people who shoot back like I do.

Do keep trying though, I find it most amusing.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#762 - 2014-10-06 13:51:27 UTC
Trixie Lawless wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Trixie Lawless wrote:
Veers you have no clue what you are talking about. Null is not safe...at all...ever, especially in Catch where I live. Yeah we have hose Intel channels because it ISN'T safe you dingleberry. CODE camping two systems with catalysts does not make hi sec more dangerous than null.

You are delusional and full of it. Have you ever even lived in null? I'm guessing not. I'm guessing you went on a roam. Couple of times in a super deserted area and thought you were badass because of it. If null is so safe, how about you come hang out with us down in Catch around the EX6-AO area.

We would live your company!


Why choose Catch as an example? Why not Deklain? And even better, why not the deserted renter areas in the East where the highsec miners go because CODE kills them too much in highsec? How dangerous is AFK Carrier and Ishtar ratting farmville?


You are pointing out low population areas and relating that to all of null...yet you point at TWO systems in hi sec and think that applies to everything.

OK...not just Catch. Go to Providence, VOLT, anywhere with people and see how long you survive.

The idea that hi sec is dangerous is a complete joke and its almost as funny as you.

Lame posts + delusions = Veersforum


Except that MOST of null is low population. And MOST of highsec has suicide ganking. The blue donut has effectively strangled real risk in nullsec, except for the people who actively want and court risk. For the fahmas' its a heck of a lot safer and more lucrative than highsec.

Delusional nullsec superiority complex + terrible factual errors = Trixieforum
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#763 - 2014-10-06 14:05:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Veers Belvar wrote:
Opinions can be false. If in your opinion 2+2 = 17, and verifiably 2+2 = 4, your opinion is wrong (and false as a factual matter).
Nope, you're confusing the opinion itself with the information contained within said opinion. An opinion can never be false as it is a personal belief, the information contained within said opinion can be open to debate or incorrect, as in your mathematical example and most of your posting.

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Next time instead of "guessing" try to do 2 minutes of research before spouting off.
Maybe you should follow your own advice, you're constantly spouting off on subjects you know nothing about Roll

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And you should know that of all the people I've supposedly grated, not one has actually tried to track me down and gank me.
You're the anti L'Oréal, you're not worth it.

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It's just been whining, speculation, threats, and gnashing of teeth,
Really? You seem to be projecting your own posting habits onto others, there's a name for that.

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but your ganker buddies seem to prefer AFK freighters and not people who shoot back like I do.
Whatever happened to the claims by yourself that CODE. and their compadres bump and gank freighters regardless of them being AFK or not? As for you shooting back? You're having a giraffe aren't you?

I'm glad you find me amusing, I find you amusing too, but not in a good way.

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Trixie Lawless
State War Academy
Caldari State
#764 - 2014-10-06 14:05:58 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Trixie Lawless wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Trixie Lawless wrote:
Veers you have no clue what you are talking about. Null is not safe...at all...ever, especially in Catch where I live. Yeah we have hose Intel channels because it ISN'T safe you dingleberry. CODE camping two systems with catalysts does not make hi sec more dangerous than null.

You are delusional and full of it. Have you ever even lived in null? I'm guessing not. I'm guessing you went on a roam. Couple of times in a super deserted area and thought you were badass because of it. If null is so safe, how about you come hang out with us down in Catch around the EX6-AO area.

We would live your company!


Why choose Catch as an example? Why not Deklain? And even better, why not the deserted renter areas in the East where the highsec miners go because CODE kills them too much in highsec? How dangerous is AFK Carrier and Ishtar ratting farmville?


You are pointing out low population areas and relating that to all of null...yet you point at TWO systems in hi sec and think that applies to everything.

OK...not just Catch. Go to Providence, VOLT, anywhere with people and see how long you survive.

The idea that hi sec is dangerous is a complete joke and its almost as funny as you.

Lame posts + delusions = Veersforum


Except that MOST of null is low population. And MOST of highsec has suicide ganking. The blue donut has effectively strangled real risk in nullsec, except for the people who actively want and court risk. For the fahmas' its a heck of a lot safer and more lucrative than highsec.

Delusional nullsec superiority complex + terrible factual errors = Trixieforum


Most of high sec has ganking?! False! Its something you hardly ever see outside of CODE systems. You are throwing around terms like "blue donut" as if you were some kind of experienced pro on the topic.

You know why so much area is empty? It has no strategic value. You can't measure the safety of an area by pointing to the empty spaces.

I don't have a superiority complex. I have not once claimed to be a PvP expert, unlike you with the ultrabad killboard. You just spew forth tons of lame and can't back anything up. Do you really feel that bad about your care bearing that you have to build a little fantasy world where you live on the edge of danger? Its sad Veers. Really sad.
Ryder 'ook
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#765 - 2014-10-06 14:55:53 UTC
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#766 - 2014-10-06 14:58:14 UTC
Trixie Lawless wrote:


Most of high sec has ganking?! False! Its something you hardly ever see outside of CODE systems. You are throwing around terms like "blue donut" as if you were some kind of experienced pro on the topic.

You know why so much area is empty? It has no strategic value. You can't measure the safety of an area by pointing to the empty spaces.

I don't have a superiority complex. I have not once claimed to be a PvP expert, unlike you with the ultrabad killboard. You just spew forth tons of lame and can't back anything up. Do you really feel that bad about your care bearing that you have to build a little fantasy world where you live on the edge of danger? Its sad Veers. Really sad.


Oh Trixie, so much rage, so little content. Ultra-bad killboard? Oh boy, that is a keeper. Try looking harder next time. And anyway I'm a wealthy PvE player who also happens to have a very respectable killboard. And the best part? I could really care less about your opinion on the matter.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#767 - 2014-10-06 15:03:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
Veers Belvar wrote:
... I could really care less ...
So you actually care quite a bit?

I could care less is the exact opposite of I couldn't care less.

As Jonah so succinctly put it "L2English"

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#768 - 2014-10-06 15:09:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Veers Belvar
Quinn Hatfield wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
... I could really care less ...
So you actually care quite a bit?

I could care less is the exact opposite of I couldn't care less.

As Jonah so succinctly put it "L2English"


Nah, that is a perfectly proper English expression. In the instant case, it was permated with an appropriately heavy dose of sarcasm. http://mentalfloss.com/article/55388/4-good-reasons-why-people-say-i-could-care-less

But yes, I really truly absolutely do not care what Trixie thinks about my killboard, or whether she considers me a "carebear."

These monumental questions do not factor into my gameplay.
Trixie Lawless
State War Academy
Caldari State
#769 - 2014-10-06 15:13:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Trixie Lawless
Veers your killboard is about as healthy as mine. That means its dragging one foot and dying from thirst. At least I can claim really low SP and flying tackle.

Who cares if you are wealthy? I'm wealthy too.... Yank yank. No one cares. "I'm a PvE player" = I'm a robot! Have fun living in your boring delusion.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#770 - 2014-10-06 15:16:39 UTC
Trixie Lawless wrote:
Veers your killboard is about as healthy as mine. That means its dragging one foot and dying from thirst. At least I can claim really low SP and flying tackle.

Who cares if you are wealthy? I'm wealthy too.... Yank yank. No one cares. "I'm a PvE player" = I'm a robot! Have fun living in your boring delusion.


Oh Trixie, you are fully entitled to feel miserable about yourself. But please do try and avoid contaminating me with your fail. I'm elite PvE, elite PvP, and elite Eve....you aren't even in my league.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#771 - 2014-10-06 15:20:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
Veers Belvar wrote:
Nah, that is a perfectly proper English expression.
Not where I come from it isn't. While it may well be an acceptable American English expression, it's considered to be bad grammar in UK English, which is spoken in England, amongst other countries.

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In the instant case, it was permated with an appropriately heavy dose of sarcasm. http://mentalfloss.com/article/55388/4-good-reasons-why-people-say-i-could-care-less
Do you actually know what sarcasm is? I couldn't care less already drips with it, I could care less is just bloody lazy, and the opposite of what you meant, which is more irony than sarcasm.

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But yes, I really truly absolutely do not care what Trixie thinks about my killboard, or whether she considers me a "carebear."
In which case you should have said that you couldn't care less, instead of that you could care less.

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These monumental questions do not factor into my gameplay.
Bully for you, however they should factor into your gameplay, because what you say on the forums has consequences ingame.

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Trixie Lawless
State War Academy
Caldari State
#772 - 2014-10-06 15:24:02 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Trixie Lawless wrote:
Veers your killboard is about as healthy as mine. That means its dragging one foot and dying from thirst. At least I can claim really low SP and flying tackle.

Who cares if you are wealthy? I'm wealthy too.... Yank yank. No one cares. "I'm a PvE player" = I'm a robot! Have fun living in your boring delusion.


Oh Trixie, you are fully entitled to feel miserable about yourself. But please do try and avoid contaminating me with your fail. I'm elite PvE, elite PvP, and elite Eve....you aren't even in my league.


Feel miserable about myself? What in the hell are you talking about? You are elite nothing. You are a lame ass high sec carebear. You aren't elite.

Let's see...

Character creation... You look like an autistic Michael Jackson. Fail.

PvE.... You enjoy it in a PvP game. Fail.

PvP.... Extremely subpar for you character life and SP level. Fail.

Grasp of reality. Extremely fail.

You are an EVE failure.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#773 - 2014-10-06 15:25:13 UTC
[quote=Quinn Hatfield]

I'm American, not some Brit, and I gave a link showing that my expression is quite proper in America. And I'm not concerned about the in-game wanna be suicide gankers on these forums. 3 months and thousands of threats later, they still haven't ganked me, nor have they even tried to track me down. Turns out bombastic bloviating is a lot easier than actually ganking someone as elite as me.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#774 - 2014-10-06 15:27:35 UTC
Trixie Lawless wrote:


Feel miserable about myself? What in the hell are you talking about? You are elite nothing. You are a lame ass high sec carebear. You aren't elite.

Let's see...

Character creation... You look like an autistic Michael Jackson. Fail.

PvE.... You enjoy it in a PvP game. Fail.

PvP.... Extremely subpar for you character life and SP level. Fail.

Grasp of reality. Extremely fail.

You are an EVE failure.


Oh Trixie -

I'm sorry you don't like my pic, once again pleasing you is one of my key goals in Eve. Yes, I love the PvE content....a lot more than PvP roams, etc.... Now when I PvE I'm also PvPing because I fit for tank to deter gankers, monitor local, etc... Like I said, I'm elite at both. It's unfortunate that you can't appreciate elite PvP, but I don't really have the time to explain it you. So good luck in your Ever career, may our paths never cross.
Cetaphil Thrace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#775 - 2014-10-06 15:32:18 UTC
I guess it depends on where you are in low/null and hi sec. There are parts of hi-sec where you are going to get ganked no matter if you are mining or missioning. I lived in null, and my experience was super boring. Ratting and the occasional fly through we would try to catch. But.. that was where i was. There are many places with action in null and low. Only difference hi-sec makes is you do not see it coming which to me makes it fun. Just my opinion though.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#776 - 2014-10-06 15:33:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
Veers Belvar wrote:
I'm American, not some Brit, and I gave a link showing that my expression is quite proper in America.
The language is called English, as in from England, not the US
As I said while the expression may well be valid in the US, it is considered poor form elsewhere.

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... someone as elite as me.
You really do need to check your ego, if it gets much bigger you'll have to get another account for it.

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Trixie Lawless
State War Academy
Caldari State
#777 - 2014-10-06 15:34:35 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Trixie Lawless wrote:


Feel miserable about myself? What in the hell are you talking about? You are elite nothing. You are a lame ass high sec carebear. You aren't elite.

Let's see...

Character creation... You look like an autistic Michael Jackson. Fail.

PvE.... You enjoy it in a PvP game. Fail.

PvP.... Extremely subpar for you character life and SP level. Fail.

Grasp of reality. Extremely fail.

You are an EVE failure.


Oh Trixie -

I'm sorry you don't like my pic, once again pleasing you is one of my key goals in Eve. Yes, I love the PvE content....a lot more than PvP roams, etc.... Now when I PvE I'm also PvPing because I fit for tank to deter gankers, monitor local, etc... Like I said, I'm elite at both. It's unfortunate that you can't appreciate elite PvP, but I don't really have the time to explain it you. So good luck in your Ever career, may our paths never cross.


Trust me. One day our paths will cross. :-) then you can show me how elite you think you are. Then after you reship you can show me again. I love blowing up blingy ships.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#778 - 2014-10-06 15:35:44 UTC
Quinn Hatfield wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
I'm American, not some Brit, and I gave a link showing that my expression is quite proper in America.
The language is called English, as in from England, not the US
As I said while the expression may well be valid in the US, it is considered poor form elsewhere.

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... someone as elite as me.
You really do need to check your ego, if it gets much bigger you'll have to get another account for it.


Yes, and America has 5x your population and has rofl stompled you guys in every engagement since 1776....I think the language is ours to mold as we choose at this point.

As for my ego, wake me up when I declare myself "Savior of highsec" and claim ownership over all of highsec....Oh wait, someone already did that....don't see you going after him......
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#779 - 2014-10-06 15:37:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Veers Belvar
Trixie Lawless wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Trixie Lawless wrote:


Feel miserable about myself? What in the hell are you talking about? You are elite nothing. You are a lame ass high sec carebear. You aren't elite.

Let's see...

Character creation... You look like an autistic Michael Jackson. Fail.

PvE.... You enjoy it in a PvP game. Fail.

PvP.... Extremely subpar for you character life and SP level. Fail.

Grasp of reality. Extremely fail.

You are an EVE failure.


Oh Trixie -

I'm sorry you don't like my pic, once again pleasing you is one of my key goals in Eve. Yes, I love the PvE content....a lot more than PvP roams, etc.... Now when I PvE I'm also PvPing because I fit for tank to deter gankers, monitor local, etc... Like I said, I'm elite at both. It's unfortunate that you can't appreciate elite PvP, but I don't really have the time to explain it you. So good luck in your Ever career, may our paths never cross.


Trust me. One day our paths will cross. :-) then you can show me how elite you think you are. Then after you reship you can show me again. I love blowing up blingy ships.


I look forward Trix....hopefully you have more courage and resolve than the rest of the ganker wannabees....you have one month to pull this off.....after that you go to the hot air department.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#780 - 2014-10-06 15:42:23 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:

Oh Trixie, you are fully entitled to feel miserable about yourself. But please do try and avoid contaminating me with your fail. I'm elite PvE, elite PvP, and elite Eve....you aren't even in my league.

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