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Perhaps if BPCs with identical stats except for runs could be "compressed" into one BPC... or perhaps weight the end stats based on the input stats...

Have t2 BPO's have their base build cost permanently adjusted 35% upward, along with new material requirements added on all non ammo BPO's?

T2 Ship BPO's seem to be capped at 9 runs at a time, t2 drones are at 19, t2 modules are at 9 and t2 ammo is capped at 19 max runs per install. Seems like a bug?

I would like to know on which base the System Costs are calculated. are they bassed on total jobs, on an time pool or the number of chars which install the jobs?


I installed a frighter BPO for ME research yesterday and the System Costs where a Lvl 0. i had to pay 415k to research to lvl 3. i did this job with 6 BPOs at the same time. today the same job costs 16.5mil, this is about 40 times as much. there are no other research facilities in the system, nor stations with research facilities.

So basicly i can **** up everybodies research/production by putting up a pos and installing some BPOs, research them and then the system costs explode for everyboddy.

i think i have to by some towers and annoy some prodders.

P.S:

so the real winners are again the big 0.0 blocks. they can keep there system costs low by regulating the amount of people researching/prodding in the same system. the Lowsec will be spammed by alt indu corps, where they log in once a week for 10 min and in highsec indu corps have to move there stuff around like ants to find a system where the production costs are low enough to build a item for profit.

nope you have to pay to install a job at your own pos

please delete

Not sure where to put this, but what is up with the new freighters??

You give up basically 75% of your cargo to tank it, but since you can not equip a damage controller, even with the reinforced bulkheads bonus, you can only get up to about 240,000 ehp? Why not enough CPU for a DC II?

What is the point of giving a bonus to fit reinforced bulkheads if you are stuck with 0 resists on the hull? the most important module for hull tanking is a damage controller II.

I know there was talk about being careful to not make them too gank resistant, but WTF, reducing the cargohold to just over 300,000m3 with 3 reinforced bulkhead II's you should do better than 240,000 ehp. I do not see how ~500,000 ehp is overpowered for a max tanked freighter, they would still be dead slow and easy to gank, Cut it down to 2 low slots, but give us a CPU bonus to fit a damage controller. Hulk tanking is actually feasible for capital ships, and what else would you expect for a capital industrial. I have always hull tanked my ORCA's, give the freighter a "real" hull tanking option. A 75% reduction in cargo for a decent hull tank is a fair option. Or change the penalty on the reinforced bulkhead II from -20% cargo to a speed and/or agility penalty. So you are not giving up 75% of your cargo for a 20% increase to tank.

For me, the lost cargo needed to get this pathetic amount of tank, and it is pathetic for a capital ship. A max tanked freighter should be in the 500,000 ehp range, cargo reduced to around 300,000m3 when max tanked is acceptable. there should also be a good speed/agility option, inertial stabilizers, and overdrives, do not have much impact.

There should basically be three options for freighter pilots. A speed/agility fit, for faster align times and travel, A cargo fit, and a tank fit. These should not be slight variations, but significant changes. Speed fit should have base cargo, weakest tank, but great algin and travel times, get you where you are going much faster. Tank fit should have smallest cargo, base speed, but have huge ehp, while the cargo fit would have base ehp, slowest speed, and huge cargo

Please give us enough power grid and CPU to be creative with some fits, and we will sort this out ourselves. If someone comes up with a unexpected fit that is overpowered, you can easily make another pass. Would it really be so bad to give freights so love and ability to resist ganking comparable to what the mining ships got. Most mining ships now require a ganking fleet that costs more than the value of the ship. Give freighter the same treatment. currently, according to miniluv doctrine it costs about 800,000,000 isk to gank a freighter. It should be well over 1,000,000,000. If this is all you are going to do, then might as well have not even touched them.

RAMs are working internally at least, I haven't verified SiSi but they *should* (apparently) be divided up there too.

Every run should result in a max-run T2 BPC, subject to decryptors changing this. The runs on the T1 copy should make no difference. Note that T2 modules now have 10 max runs and T2 ships/rigs now have 1 max runs.

Why not change decryptors so that they just work as a run multiplier instead? "You get max runs times decryptor output multiplier"?

Example: former +0 runs decryptor get x1 multiplier instead. And a ship bpc invented with former +0 runs decryptor gets max runs(1) x multiplier = 1 run. Former +9 runs decryptor gets x10 multiplier so the ship bpc invented with this gets max runs(1) x multiplier = 10 runs.

This will also fix the decryptors usage for modules and ammunition allowing to multiply 10 default runs by x10 from a max run decryptor instead of just getting 10+9.

Max runs are 10 on Adaptive Invul Field II, I'm still getting 1 run on a T2 BPC after inventing.