CSM Campaigns

It does little to engender community confidence in a candidate when the candidate refuses to answer questions. "I won't answer loaded questions" might work once or twice where its obvious, but using that excuse over and over renders it flimsy indeed. A question is not loaded simply because a truthful answer would reflect unfavorably on the candidate.

Furthermore, attempting to use forum rules to lawyer your way out of answering won't inspire confidence either. It's not hard to figure out that if candidates can dismiss any question because in their personal view its "flame bait" or "trolling" that will quickly result in candidates rejecting hard questions on those grounds.

The excuse of flame bait and trolling looks even worse whn you make snarky comments about people forgetting to vote on some of them while at the same time running on a platform opposing multiple account voting, especially when you have not actually articulated a meaningful problem in that regard.

Honestly? No real effort has been needed so far, for me.
It's so weak a candidate, several things can be rebutted simply by quoting two mutually contradictory statements by Xenuria, asking "Which of these represents your beliefs?" and watch either the rejection of the question, a non-answer or no answer. I mean, it's pretty much a field day for "what not to do as a serious and sane candidate"-showcasing.
So it's pretty obvious that we're not afraid of Xenuria, mostly because it's not a serious candidate.
... then why do we use time on it? Personally, I enjoy watching train wrecks like this. Some people drive slowly past a car accident, and I participate in horrendously executed election campaigns on an internet forum - except of course, no-one gets hurt here, unless they have chosen to put themselves at risk and internalises any grief, so I don't think it's equivalent to watching a car accident.
Others, like I said earlier, seem to genuinely attempt to improve Xenurias campaign, which I don't understand and would generally think futile, but obviously not for the (exact) same purpose as me.
A few might primarily be posting to warn people of how moronic Xenuria is, although I personally don't think Xenuria needs any help showing that to the world.
At least one wanted answers to genuine questions, and was put off by the candidates reaction to any questions that doesn't fit the candidate.

I'm not going to claim I know why CFC types post here, but if I were a betting personality, I'd say mostly their own enjoyment, and partly a desire to test if Xenuria is as worthless as the stories say.

And since Xenuria summarises his own platform with two words ("Vote Xenuria"), it's easy to see why the stories are vindicated. The platform of the candidate is that voters should vote for the candidate. No politics, no substance, no talent, just ego.

And I'm not going to lie, it would be hilarious if he got elected to CSM. Horrible for the CSM as a worthwhile institution, but hilarious. Check out this list for a number of examples of the simply crazy hijinks that joke candidates get up to every once in a while.
I'm not that afraid, though. Trolls could vote for him, and idiots might, but with better troll candidates, and with a number of organised (Party-like) organisations, any troll/idiot votes will be diluted into inefficiency. You need a lot of primary votes for Xenuria for it to matter at all, and most people votes for candidates who takes their own candidacy seriously.

weve asked the question nicely and unibased before, hell, even given advice and places and ways to be more active in the community to help their chances of getting elected

we were told we were still asking loaded questions and just trolling, were told obviously we just like the status quo and sucking mittanis engorged peanuts, and they we werent welcome in the thread.


oh, and just try bringing up any other prior platform Xenuria has run on in the previous years, of what the *MOST* important thing to add to EVE was, and youll get a big "ignored" stick thrown at your head, and the only reasons those previous platforms were brought up is because they legitimately bring Xenuria's competence/ability to perform as a valid CSM candidate into question

No politician responds to every mouth fart of the rabble. I should point out that voting is over, yet you're still full of blather and bombast. This must be really important to you. Put on your powdered wig, grab your Robert's Rules, and throw some elbows.

There is so much optimism on the forums that we can actually change each other's minds.

Yeah... See I don't think you actually read the OP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
You might want to look at that, you know for your future attempts to get involved with the process.

but see, those are obviously loaded questions and your just trying to make xenuria say something wrong to look bad


edit* /sarcasm

So by stating he read your OP and that his evaluation of its value was that it had none - somehow that's trolling.

All you are really doing here is admitting that you are labelling any challenge as "trolling" to avoid dealing with it. I've given you some frank and harsh criticism here, and I would be gratified to see you act on it next year to try to run a real campaign, but I suspect that the rewl value here will be in showing others what not to do - or if you do win, that player disillusionment with the CSM is so great that they will elect a candidate with no real ideas just to troll CCP.

I read your OP, it addressed nothing I asked hence the questions. I won't bother you anymore with legitimate questions on how you intend to be as a politician if you by some chance get elected because you seem to have a disdain for the EVE Community.

Reading Comprehension I would enable you to see that this isn't where I show my hand.
If anything, I show my hand much earlier, where I continue to call this entertainment.

But "we" in this sense isn't even what you think. I'm not in collusion with anyone, it's just painfully obvious that both the CFC and I have been through your OP better than you have yourself. In very short, no, there's no need to troll you, or work together on it, and there exists (To my knowledge) no "Agency For Keeping Xenuria Out Of Politics", because frankly, you do a much better job of that than we could ever hope to do.
"Hate/smear" campaigns only work as long as there is some resemblance of truth, something to smear with. And you've provided so much of that, just bringing up your earlier actions, statements or history will derail you. Personally, the rest is just pure entertainment for me.

And I would guess that a number of the CFC posters, as well as Nariya, have only seen you run for CSM this time, because had they seen your earlier attempts, they'd have given up on any real attempt to help and/or improve your campaign.

But just to see how much you're actually able to read, let's see which question
- Was already answered? (And please provide a link/quote to the answer)
- Was loaded? (Of those I asked in the post you quoted)
- Was already detailed in the OP?

Because I seriously doubt you're even able to classify even one of the questions in those categories, unless you're going to include earlier times where you rejected the question.

@ Resi Durant, take every claim Xenuria makes with a grain of salt. Earlier in this thread, he claimed that some low percent of EVE players are female (Which is both fairly ordinary and without consequence), and that 90% of his voters are female (Which would be fairly extraordinary and with a number of implications), and then when pressed on it, tried to write off the extraordinary claim under the guise of the ordinary. He never supplied any evidence for the 90% claim, but maybe he waited until it couldn't influence the voting to reveal that he actually does have those numbers?
"Not uncommon" in Xenurias experience also has to take into account his acknowledgement that he only talks with people who already largely share his sentiments. When you're in a secluded group and writes everyone outside off as part of a large conspiracy against you, 100% of people you know of will share your experiences. Combined with an acceptance of anecdotal evidence, this leaves Xenuria fairly out of touch with EVE and the EVE community.

Oh, and if anyone cares to spend the time, try going through the thread with this list and see how many fallacies Xenuria makes, compared to me. For extra credit, mark off when one of my ad hominems is actually just changing subject to Xenurias qualifications as a candidate in general, instead of this particular run.

Oh, and Xenuria, let's see who gets more votes: You in this space-election, or me in the election for my countrys national parliament later this year. It'll be a fun competition.