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Bring me the head of a CFC titan pilot!

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Oujanika Bollokov
Doomheim
#441 - 2014-06-11 09:51:58 UTC
Xolve wrote:


Not empty quoting.



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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#442 - 2014-06-11 10:01:57 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
with how well he moves goal posts, gevlon should sponsor a world cup team. how could they lose with such an advantage?
Doing a sweepstakes thingy at work for the world cup. I got Russia. :(

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Succendus Tegimens
Hey Fatty With Your Thick Face
#443 - 2014-06-11 10:26:18 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Succendus Tegimens wrote:
Eagerly awaiting Gevlon's next blog post where he claims yet again that this thread is "full of tears."

Why should I post the obvious? Also, do RAZOR hauls in the new deep space transports or do they have JFs left?

I wouldn't know, I'm not in the CFC.

(also lol)
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#444 - 2014-06-11 10:48:09 UTC
This thread needs more words.

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#445 - 2014-06-11 12:00:29 UTC
Titan. P

Also, shifting goal posts are so passe. But I don't think Gevlon ever got the memo.
Big Lynx
#446 - 2014-06-11 12:18:48 UTC
Titan?
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#447 - 2014-06-11 12:39:26 UTC
This morning I saw a goonswarm member.

They were flying an IBIS!!!!

GOONS ARE POOR!!

*waits for failscade due to empty alliance wallet*



Oh...


Titan.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Radric Davids
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#448 - 2014-06-11 12:56:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Radric Davids
Quoting this gem for posterity:

Quote:
Highsec, where you can just dock up and deny kills to a blobbing enemy, isn't a good place for casual PvP-ers. Here you go elite or go away. General Lemming choose to move Lemmings to sov-null, a place fitting much more for casual players.

- Goalposts Gevlon 6.11.14



The taking of credit for MoA kills has begun. Goalposting has reached a whole new level.
Solecist Project
#449 - 2014-06-11 13:55:35 UTC
This guy has way more money than brains to use said money properly.

A shame.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#450 - 2014-06-11 14:02:34 UTC
I just realize I have no idea what "moving the goalpost" means.

*looks it up*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#451 - 2014-06-11 15:33:48 UTC
Sometimes, I just wanna park my Avatar in your Erebus.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#452 - 2014-06-11 16:17:09 UTC
Gevlon 'goalposts' Gevlon in full ret-con mode over on his blog
Gevlon 11th June 2014 wrote:
I know some of you are upset about pulling the plug on the Lemming project, but let's face it: the results were not good enough for me to keep paying the wardec costs

..
Gevlon 5th June 2014 wrote:
The GRR project went from a "funny distraction" to a major source of damage for the evil of New Eden

..
Gevlon May 11th 2014 wrote:
Yes, that's almost 8B/week, which is about a well fit supercarrier a month. However the results are about two titans worth of kills, even in a bad month. Who wouldn't trade a mothership for two titans?

..
Gevlon May 6th 2014 wrote:
The Lemming wardec costs were lower than Marmite, so the 5x ISK multiplier is valid here too, along with my continued support and the "that said" part


and who could forget

Gevlon May 1st 2014 wrote:
It's not about the money, it's about sending a titanic message!


Welp.

All of a sudden it's not about "sending a message" or "it doesn't matter what it costs if you get 5x return" but "I have limited income".

I mean, we kept saying "it's not ROI because you're not getting anything in return" but apparently he needed to see his wallet spiral downwards for a while before he believed it.
For someone self-admittedly poop-socking the game, 12bil a week is not a good income for a 2-year vet. That's a couple of characters AFKtaring in the evenings, an activity open to relative newbies. What on earth is he doing?

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Radric Davids
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#453 - 2014-06-11 16:38:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Radric Davids
Khanh'rhh wrote:
. What on earth is he doing?


Market trading but refusing to play the .01 isk game, and seeding some pubbie markets i think. It's hard to believe that he makes so little money after talking so much big game and blogging about business/making isk for 2 years. I imagine if he properly market traded (maximized profit by .01 isking) he would be making a lot more. Most people, once they make a solid bankroll, parlay those profits into exceedingly large sums - but Gevlon has limited options due to his social problems and throwing away isk at pointless high sec 'elite pvp' ventures
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#454 - 2014-06-11 16:47:24 UTC
Radric Davids wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
. What on earth is he doing?


Market trading but refusing to play the .01 isk game, and seeding some pubbie markets i think. It's hard to believe that he makes so little money after talking so much big game and blogging about business/making isk for 2 years. I imagine if he properly market traded (maximized profit by .01 isking) he would be making a lot more. Most people, once they make a solid bankroll, parlay those profits into exceedingly large sums - but Gevlon has limited options due to his social problems and throwing away isk at pointless high sec 'elite pvp' ventures

gevlon isn't really bright enough to do those sort of high-capital ventures, becuase they all require carefully understanding what you're doing and creative thinking

he knows how to do exactly one thing, and that's roleplay a market bot, and by god he's going to roleplay that market bot as hard as he can as long as he can
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#455 - 2014-06-11 19:55:30 UTC
It's hard to tell if you are trolling or you are just dumb. Either way, you are mixing "GRR project" and "Lemmings". Let me put it into as simple terms as possible:

GRR project is the fight against the evil and socialist group that acts as a cancer on EVE (hint: that's you). GRR project is a full success, eliminating the Goon POCOs, killing 1.1T Goons and minions and providing more tears than Minerbumping does (hint: look at the page count on this topic)

Lemmings was one tool of the GRR project. It was meant to be the primary tool, and that plan failed. They could never outdo Marmite Collective. They stopped growing 9 weeks ago and most importantly, their pilots were never "swarming casuals". 85% of Lemming kills came from 15% of the pilots. So it was a small elite killing CFC + lot of guys hanging out, having fun and doing nothing while I paid a lot and the directors worked their ass off. So we decided to disband them and salvage the usable people (hint: not the ones doing the chatting). This frees up my money for Marmite + MoA + titans and the time of the directors to kill Goons instead of babysitting. Here I could talk about "opportunity cost", but only Mynnna would understand that, so I just go with "we did this to increase the amount of dead CFC".

I hope it helps.

My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#456 - 2014-06-11 20:19:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
"Either way, you are mixing "GRR project" and "Lemmings"

It's not "being dumb" you've just moved your goalposts so many times I actually lost track on what fantasy you were currently running with. It's cool, I will admit I could do better at following your mad ravings. However, you specifically said they were the same thing in your "introduction" post for them. I'm sorry, I guess the "grrr project" has come to mean "anything where I throw my money away for no gain" and I will take that into account.

"GRR project is a full success, eliminating the Goon POCOs, killing 1.1T Goons and minions"

OKAY so the theme here is going to be, that I'm just not sure which goalposts you are talking about. You claimed RvB were goons. You claimed that your goal was to take the POCOs from goons.
The current situation is RvB own them; we sold them to them.
So help me out here - which revised goal does selling them to ourselves meet? Not the original one, for sure, but I don't want to dig through weeks of you flim-flamming over your goals to work it out. Where did you claim the goal was to force us (lol) to sell them at a decent price .. to ourselves?
Or are you going to re-create a new narrative where RvB aren't goons ... or what?

(FYI, please try to refute this - I would love to quote your own blog back at you!)

You're all over the place here chuckles, help me out.

"It was meant to be the primary tool, and that plan failed."

Yes, well we told you what the result of your "I can't fail if I pretend I'm not involved but also all their success is mine" nonsense strategy was a long time ago. Man of you to admit we were right the whole time, though!

"They could never outdo Marmite Collective"

Yes, the guys who wardecced us anyway. So your goal was to mildly increase the duration of the wars we were commonly a party in anyway?
Again - some clear stated goals are needed here.

"So we decided to disband them"

We?

ehehehehe

We?

You mean they decided to, after publicly disowning you.

You had no part in the decision (other than the fact you can't afford to pay for them to have fun).

"Here I could talk about "opportunity cost""

Opportunity cost is irrelevant when you're throwing your money in a bucket to try to claim credit for things that were happening anyway. See: MOA.
They don't even have SRP, so you're literally just throwing money at their corp wallet to be squandered on whatever they use it for, they will do the same number of roams, kill the same number of goons as before - only now you will make graphs of it and claim you're involved somehow.

FYI - your stated aim of your highsec POCO war was to make the CFC collapse because we suddenly realised we can't bully people and that people can fight back. How's that going, by the way?

It's like you seem to forget your original aims for this project were to topple GSF as the leaders of the CFC and ergo collapse it, via POCO wardecs. You stated your victory conditions (GSF no longer running PAP links .. the end of the CFC as it is now ..all that nonsense) but then accepted us selling them (to people you claimed were also us) as a victory. I guess you were running low on money, and needed an "out" as soon as possible?
Are you willing to ret-con your original aims into "increase damage in highsec by a single-digit percentage point" or are you ever going to admit your original aims were wild, deluded fantasies and your attempts to enact them wrought with ineptitude?

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#457 - 2014-06-11 20:21:02 UTC
"TEST are now invulnerable and can't lose the Fountain war, thanks to my donations board"

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#458 - 2014-06-11 20:22:19 UTC
I mean people were openly chatting in TEST jabber about washing money through the donations board so you would double it, and other ways they could scam you for money - I guess since you're an a-social you never logged on?

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Radric Davids
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#459 - 2014-06-11 20:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Radric Davids
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
This frees up my money for titans and the time of the directors to kill Goons instead of babysitting. Here I could talk about "opportunity cost", but only Mynnna would understand that, so I just go with "we did this to increase the amount of dead CFC".



Wait.

You just smugged about opportunity cost when you have 20b sitting in escrow doing exactly nothing. Holy **** the irony is too much.

I've said this many times Gevlon, you really need to read the **** you write before you press post. You don't even need to understand opportunity cost or the time value of money to realize how dumb of a statement you just made.
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#460 - 2014-06-11 20:43:41 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
"TEST are now invulnerable and can't lose the Fountain war, thanks to my donations board"

truly one of the most hilarious posts about eve online ever written