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Bring me the head of a CFC titan pilot!

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#281 - 2014-06-05 07:43:56 UTC
Jacob Kelbrand wrote:
Bombless bombers pretty much won us the fountain war. I'm not sure where Gevlon is going with this.
It's his usual "they are heap so they must be poor" thing. He doesn't understand strategy, which is a good thing, because if he did he might actually stand a chance of causing actual damage.

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Maichin Civire
#282 - 2014-06-05 09:42:27 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Jacob Kelbrand wrote:
Bombless bombers pretty much won us the fountain war. I'm not sure where Gevlon is going with this.
It's his usual "they are heap so they must be poor" thing. He doesn't understand strategy, which is a good thing, because if he did he might actually stand a chance of causing actual damage.

Why? He has one strategy. He is throwing money at high sec mercs in hope to "destroy" cfc.

... It's still strategy!
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#283 - 2014-06-05 10:13:45 UTC
So it's been almost two weeks, and this bounty hasn't been claimed? Let's be really generous and assume it will be claimed tomorrow. We will also assume that Gevlon has an infinite capacity to fund these bounties and these bounties will continue to be claimed every two weeks until the goons are destroyed.



We shall also assume the goons have a mere 100 titans, with no ability or capacity to replenish this stockpile. We will also assume that when goons run out of titans they will inevitably collapse, likely due to the lack of eazy-modo titan bridging transport.



Assuming the above perfect scenario, with the bounty machine running nonstop, it will take 3.84 years, or 1404 days to bring down the goon machine. That is assuming gevlon can trade 20b isk for every titan, and that he can do so indefinitely, and titans are the only things keeping goons afloat, and that goons never buy or build more titans. It is long enough that one may reasonably expect CCP to nerf titans into the ground some point in the intervening period (and long enough that they'll get OP buffed in that time as well).




Is this a winning strategy?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#284 - 2014-06-05 10:31:40 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:
We will also assume that Gevlon has an infinite capacity to fund these bounties?


That's a tall order considering he admitted in his most recent blog post that Lemmings disbanded & joined a renter alliance because he could no longer afford the war fees for them.

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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#285 - 2014-06-05 10:50:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Money Makin Mitch
Maichin Civire wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Jacob Kelbrand wrote:
Bombless bombers pretty much won us the fountain war. I'm not sure where Gevlon is going with this.
It's his usual "they are heap so they must be poor" thing. He doesn't understand strategy, which is a good thing, because if he did he might actually stand a chance of causing actual damage.

Why? He has one strategy. He is throwing money at high sec mercs in hope to "destroy" cfc.

... It's still strategy!

'Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.'

I'd say it's safe to assume he was lacking in both.
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#286 - 2014-06-05 10:52:06 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Loraine Gess wrote:
We will also assume that Gevlon has an infinite capacity to fund these bounties?


That's a tall order considering he admitted in his most recent blog post that Lemmings disbanded & joined a renter alliance because he could no longer afford the war fees for them.



I was being generous. There's no doubt gevlon is a damned fool.
Dave Stark
#287 - 2014-06-05 12:24:33 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Loraine Gess wrote:
We will also assume that Gevlon has an infinite capacity to fund these bounties?


That's a tall order considering he admitted in his most recent blog post that Lemmings disbanded & joined a renter alliance because he could no longer afford the war fees for them.


so you mean, all those billions in damages did less actual damage than the upkeep of wardec fees?
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#288 - 2014-06-05 12:27:08 UTC
Hrm I wonder if he will admit to rescinding the bounty. If lemmings disbanded to be come renters, and he has admitted in his blog to not having funds left for the grrr project, it stands to reason he would want the 20b back from this wasted endeavor.

Mr Cribba, would you care to confirm if the bounty is still being held in third party escrow or is it kaput?
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#289 - 2014-06-05 12:45:10 UTC
So he bankrupted himself for literally no reason Lol
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#290 - 2014-06-05 12:54:11 UTC
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
So he bankrupted himself for literally no reason Lol
It most certainly seems that way. I suppose he gets too keep the fact that he effectively owns marmite, and that he's created a new null sec renter for N3, but as far as his actual aims, it's pretty dire.

His latest blog states how they've done as much damage as Asakai over 5 months and how that means they are as damaging as Asakai. He seems to have some confusion over the whole "5 months != 1 day" thing, so I think for the time being he's still convinced there's a reason behind it. You do have to wonder though, how long can he see nothing changing and keep convincing himself that he's doing something epic before he finally faces reality?

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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#291 - 2014-06-05 13:11:27 UTC
buried in there is the implicit admission that all of gevlon's money on lemmings was utterly wasted because all they were doing was stealing kills from marmite, who usually has us decced anyway

great success goalposts gevlon
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#292 - 2014-06-05 13:52:58 UTC
It's quite funny to watch him scrabbling with readers on his blog, where hes desperately trying to claim that the raw number must be proof that the goons are suffering. He seems oblivious to the simple fact that nothing has changed, convinced that somehow the goons must be hiding some deep wound inflicted by his wannabe mercs. I've challenged him to provide evidence of impact in that past, so to show how it is affecting us, and he's simply moderated away the comments and failed to provide an answer. It's obvious why, there is no impact.

I just hope he's got enough isk left in the dregs of his wallet to keep us entertained a little longer.

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DPS INC
Probably Up to No Good
#293 - 2014-06-05 15:00:17 UTC
Yet another reason why you shouldn't be allowed to post on these forums.

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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#294 - 2014-06-05 16:25:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Money Makin Mitch
Goalposts Gevlon does have a nice ring to it Bear
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#295 - 2014-06-05 17:39:04 UTC
Froggy Storm wrote:
Hrm I wonder if he will admit to rescinding the bounty. If lemmings disbanded to be come renters, and he has admitted in his blog to not having funds left for the grrr project, it stands to reason he would want the 20b back from this wasted endeavor.

Mr Cribba, would you care to confirm if the bounty is still being held in third party escrow or is it kaput?

I'm so bankrupt that I'll be paying about 6B/week to Marmite to wardec every CFC alliance and send 3B/week to Mordus for SRP. So yes, I'll totally have to withdraw the bounty. You can safely log on now and bridge the your buddies! Don't worry, HIC gangs are the new thing since Kronos.

Oh, and your alliance, The Bastion is a strong contender for the "largest CFC losses on Marmite killboard" with 26B damage in May. But I have to tell you, beating CO2 and FCON will be no easy task. Those guys are really good at losing jump freighters.

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Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#296 - 2014-06-05 17:45:30 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Froggy Storm wrote:
Hrm I wonder if he will admit to rescinding the bounty. If lemmings disbanded to be come renters, and he has admitted in his blog to not having funds left for the grrr project, it stands to reason he would want the 20b back from this wasted endeavor.

Mr Cribba, would you care to confirm if the bounty is still being held in third party escrow or is it kaput?

I'm so bankrupt that I'll be paying about 6B/week to Marmite to wardec every CFC alliance and send 3B/week to Mordus for SRP. So yes, I'll totally have to withdraw the bounty. You can safely log on now and bridge the your buddies! Don't worry, HIC gangs are the new thing since Kronos.

Oh, and your alliance, The Bastion is a strong contender for the "largest CFC losses on Marmite killboard" with 26B damage in May. But I have to tell you, beating CO2 and FCON will be no easy task. Those guys are really good at losing jump freighters.


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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#297 - 2014-06-05 18:03:15 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Froggy Storm wrote:
Hrm I wonder if he will admit to rescinding the bounty. If lemmings disbanded to be come renters, and he has admitted in his blog to not having funds left for the grrr project, it stands to reason he would want the 20b back from this wasted endeavor.

Mr Cribba, would you care to confirm if the bounty is still being held in third party escrow or is it kaput?

I'm so bankrupt that I'll be paying about 6B/week to Marmite to wardec every CFC alliance and send 3B/week to Mordus for SRP. So yes, I'll totally have to withdraw the bounty. You can safely log on now and bridge the your buddies! Don't worry, HIC gangs are the new thing since Kronos.

Oh, and your alliance, The Bastion is a strong contender for the "largest CFC losses on Marmite killboard" with 26B damage in May. But I have to tell you, beating CO2 and FCON will be no easy task. Those guys are really good at losing jump freighters.

9b a week is chump change. I thought you were supposed to be rich?
Dave Stark
#298 - 2014-06-05 18:32:28 UTC
i should start shooting the CFC. i wouldn't mind free isk.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#299 - 2014-06-05 18:46:25 UTC
Oh noes, an incentive to shoot CFC. /o\

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#300 - 2014-06-05 19:00:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Voyager Arran