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Great to hear, thanks for the prompt response

maybe you should add in some unique items that you can sell too certain NPC corps...
you could even make exploration missions with agents and certain NPC corps who ask for certain items to complete the mission ..
you could get LP and isk reward and standings with that NPC corp...

We have removed the "5 second increase to decay time of all scattered containers." from this implant and are in the process of replacing this now with something else.

I'm not sure cutting the loot in half will go far enough. Prices have crashed so far that many explorers have moved on. When they start coming back, even at half loot, we may still have an oversupply. I remember seeing CCP say they wanted exploration to be one of the highest paying careers in Eve. That means in high sec, it should pay better than L4 missions. We need prices to rise tremendously for that to happen.

Another option, increase the breadth of the loot tables. For example, every now and then a skill book shows up. But only a few of them show up. How about including ALL the skill books? That would allow more of them total to be in the loot without tanking the market for any given book. Just make sure the spawn rate is less than the total NPC sales for that book.

The same could be done for BPOs for T1 modules and ships. Include them all, make sure the spawn rate is less than the NPC sales rate (even if the popularity of exploration explodes).

Faction ship multi run bpcs please :D

I'm an occasional explorer, I've ran C4 WH sites (relic/data) at the beggining of loot scattering, and it was painfully long due to the number of containers versus actual loot, with the time it implied.

I've finally decided to try my hand back at exploration for a few weeks now, I'd say around a month. Very occasionally, I run sites at about maybe five per week.

Like most explorers, with a cargo-scanner I know in advance what the loot is going to be, which allows for a quick comparison between loot obtained and total potential loot, after having ran a hacking.

As you can see, I'm no hardcore explorer, but despite that I'd say that I manage to gather around 75-80% of all the valuable loot there is to be had in a container.

It would be cool if the removal of the loot scattering mechanic -which is not really penalizing in terms of loot, its just an actually-not-fun mechanic- was done with the intent of keeping explorer's income stable. So I'd definitely recommend less than 50% nerf, more around 25% maximum.

Edit: 7o Matias :p

I don't yet know enough about exploring, nor market fluxuations, to venture a truly informed viewpoint. However, I am seeing what appears to be an interesting contradiction between the three primary types of responses I've seen in this thread:

1. "Yay! No more loot scattering! I'll come back to exploring now!"

2. "No! Don't cut the loot in half! I'll leave exploring!"

3. "No! Don't cut the loot in half! It'll drive market prices up!"

This seemingly translates to:

1. You have one group of people who will come back simply because they didn't like the *way* they had to do things. Thus, more explorers.

2. You have another group of people who seem to think that reduced loot immediately equals reduced profit. Thus, fewer explorers.

3. You have a third group of people who insist that reduced loot will immediately drive prices up in the market. Thus, intuitively, you'd think this would make exploration more lucrative again (because while there is less loot, that loot is now worth more), and thus, more explorers.

There is a cognitive dissonance between these viewpoints. I agree that "half" is probably drastic, but perhaps not as drastic as it might seem at first glance. Exploring may well end up being worth about the same overall, but is now worth more *per haul* than it was before, possibly increasing the ISK/hour that explorers receive, making exploration even more attractive. Of course, it may also make exploration hunters more prominent as well...

Food for thought.

please no. Insta Finish is "Pay to win". Hack it like everyone else.

Thank you for this change, much appreciated. Could you please check the loot tables on the hardest cam to hack (also the one with the 'bubble' around it that doesn't allow you to get closer than 5k). This might be a drone regions thing but there is always this one can that is hard to hack and provides the worst loot out of the total. That seems reversed.

Thanks a lot.

Isn't there a way to query from the database how many items were spawned in those sites vs. how many were actually looted?

I would expect that the figures for valuable stuff (certain T2 Salvage, decryptors, Faction POS BPCs) are much closer to 100% than for less valuable stuff.

When I ran these sites I would do the cargo scan, then set myself a primary, secondary etc. objective and pick the can type of the most valuable item first so that the success rate for more expensive stuff would be much higher.