Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Point taken - you are correct - i can see more basic needs being met in null - on the t1/ammo side but anything that requires the luxuries that ONLY exist in high sec markets is going to take its toll - and be more expensive.

Why would I ever do research or anything in null ? Its going to cost me more to stay in null when i can just set up my pos in some ass backwards part of high sec and let my alts toil there.

I can move t2 products around high sec much more efficiently and cheaply so t2 production stays in and around high sec.

And we still end up exporting to null - just costing us more in jump fuel - which in turn ends up being paid by the line grunt - who may or may not see any point in fleeting up anymore since his bomber now costs 100m isk. (im being sarcastic now)

Excellent changes.

Freighter pilots now have to choose between tank, cargo, time into warp, or warp speed. If you were filling your cargo full before you were likely doing it wrong anyways creating a giant gank target, and by going max cargo after the changes you are doing the same. Choosing to cut short time from your align or massive combined time from your warp speed is another choice that freighter pilots will need to ask themselves. With the changes to warp speed affecting freighters the way they have, I definitely like the option of choosing a safe amount of materials to transport at a faster warp speed for less total transport time.

lmao

Filling your freighter with Tritanium worth 400M makes you a big gank target? Please give me something from your mushrooms.

Choosing one of the cheapest materials you would be transporting is a great way to counter my point, however I don't believe that a majority of the items being transported are going to be along these same lines.

Additionally, and off that topic, I believe these changes are also a great way to increase the viability of localized nullsec manufacturing. If less items are being JF into nullsec it will give greater opportunity for those items to be created locally at profitable levels.

As a non freighter Pilot I like those changes.
Now people have to decide if they want max cargo, max agility or max tank.

It adds a choice to the game :)

So many carebears tears!

Edit: This post was assuming that Cargo rigs are stacking penalised. I changed it accordingly.

To offset a 30% nerf, you need a 43% increase with rigs. T1 Rigs only give you 45% more and T2 rigs will give you 55%.

With the full investment (doubling your freighter price) you will get about 9% more cargo on a Charon than before. You will also have slower align times, less EHP. And don't forget that cargo rigs nerf armor tanks.

I did a short look through my "shipping manifests" in recent times. About 10% of my cargo could have been produced in 0.0. Mostly ships and some ammo.

So...how exactly is this supposed to improve 0.0 manufacturing?

funny thing what only nulli goons and pl doesnt like these changes))others fine with them