Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Thoughts:

I really like these ships and think they fit in nicely alongside the other pirate faction ships. The battleship is especially good because the extended scram range makes it difficult for smaller ships to stay out of scram range if they want to hero tackle you... A slightly extended scram range is probably something all battleships should have...

However, I think the cruiser and the battleships could do with an extra low slot instead of the utility high. This would enable the ship to perform well, both shield tanked and armour tanked.

After the Nestor, i was beginning to think CCP Rise and CCP Fozzie were designing ships by picking random bonuses out of a hat... When are you guys going to fix (stats and aesthetics) that ship btw?

CCP RISE congratz on the changes to the other faction ships in the game they are looking really good and cant wait to fly them .

As regards the mordu ships did you create the stats for them on a cigerette box in a night club at 3am after consuming lage amounts wiskey.

I would have liked to have seen a nieche role for these ships too to make them unique to fly like what you have done with the other faction ships a scram range bonus "really" is that all you can come up with.

The firg ill fly for the giggles but will it replace my crow definatily not no cap issues and low sig wins everyday.

Will i fly the cruiser maybe for giggles too will it be used over the gila definatily not.

and the battleship can i see it being flon in pvp or pve im afraid not its a dead horse before it even gets out of the traps.

Come on man try to be a bit creative and give these new beautiful ships a nieche roll to be proud of then they might be used

changing the damage bonus to roles and the caldari bonus to target painter efectivness migh bring these ships out of the shadow of their big pirate brother ships. Seeing really fast missiles flying off your ship doesnt really float my boat .

come on man back to the drawing board plz

What is it absolutely "needed" for?

It can do its job (shoot missiles and point stuff) without the a utility high.

Angel, Serpentis, Guristas, Sisters, Mordu's. Five of seven pirate factions use Gallente skills. This is far too few. Could you make the next one Gallente/Gallente/Gallente? Thanks.

A cloak, a neut, drone link, etc.

Irrelevant. CCP keeps things in check because of corner situations. IF somethign has 11 laucnhers potential you will eventualy see somethign broken be with torps at close range be with cruise at exreme range.

The point bonus is same issue withe the AB bonus on the nightmare. Some bonuses lose their value in huge hulls.

Why all this. Not fault of the ships. fault of the EXCESSIVE batleshisp mobility nerf on the last 7 years.
The fact hat battleships are so slow that having or not a MWD is only relevant when bubbles are around show how over nerfed theyir speed was. And that makes AB and point bonus irrelevant.

The neutraliser that everyone will put there will help protect the ship from frigates and cruisers.

Not that anyone will fly the battleship in pvp. They'll use the cruiser or frigate.

Then your answer should have been: "it's not needed but it's nice to have things."

They would be better ships if they had an extra low slot but the utility high would need to be dropped to keep it balanced. If you want to fit a cloak or neut, then you would have to sacrifice a launcher slot.

The utility high is nice, cuz if your shield tanked your not really gona have space for a cap booster so a Nos will help you keep those hardeners running.

Interesting,

I do have a little doubt about the BS. My Cruise SNI out damages it with cruise.
As for torps, I haven't seen a viable Torp PvP fit on a ship that doesn't have a a good way to adjust damage application.