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hi sec not the same as it used to be

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Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#61 - 2014-04-02 16:48:31 UTC
Enraku Reynolt wrote:
funny, quite afew posts complaing about "whiney carebears" What?
who's actually whiney?


Carebears are the good guys of Eve.


\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
Solecist Project
#62 - 2014-04-02 16:51:45 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
they're fine with being -10 in highsec, some even flaunt it.
Who would do such a horrible thing!?
I'm surprised yours is still at 0.0 tbh I'd have thought you'd have ganked something with a newb ship by now Pirate
I'm still trying to figure out where to go, what to do. Also a reason for my thread about Solitude.

I even checked your corp, but it's only a one man corp.
Which is sad.
I don't even know what you do.


I'd be happy with low- or nullsec too, as long as I don't have to play with nullbears,
because that would just get me kicked on my first day. Just like the last time.

Can you imagine? I once applied to a nullsec corp and actually got accepted!

I moved myself down to their home and people pissed me off immediately
about how I should not talk in local, because I'm giving away intel, blablabla.


I left instantly.


Clueless morons.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2014-04-02 16:59:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
baltec1 wrote:
Yea. You have never been safer.

"cry"......

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Josef Djugashvilis
#64 - 2014-04-02 17:00:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
baltec1 wrote:
Yea. You have never been safer.


Dear Baltec 1, are you related to Pavlov's dog in any way? Smile

This is not a signature.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#65 - 2014-04-02 17:03:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Solecist Project wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out where to go, what to do. Also a reason for my thread about Solitude.

I even checked your corp, but it's only a one man corp.
Which is sad.
I don't even know what you do.


I'd be happy with low- or nullsec too, as long as I don't have to play with nullbears,
because that would just get me kicked on my first day. Just like the last time.

Can you imagine? I once applied to a nullsec corp and actually got accepted!

I moved myself down to their home and people pissed me off immediately
about how I should not talk in local, because I'm giving away intel, blablabla.


I left instantly.


Clueless morons.
lol Join the club, I've been bearing it up on two characters for 3 years and a year in WH's, getting bored so going to keep this one and sell the other one.

I rolled an alt in January, which I'm considering either going to CVA space or moving down to CASs operations in nullsec.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#66 - 2014-04-02 17:06:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Shadowlightt wrote:
Anyone notice how much hi sec has changed in the last 4 years? Like the order and things.

To be honest, if high sec, or any other part of the game, was still the same as it was four years ago, the population would have gotten bored to the point where half of them would have left by now..

The New Order might be run by a moronic RP dweeb that we all love to hate, but without the constant influx of player created content the game would stagnate pretty quickly. As much as things like Hulkagedden, the interdictions and one-off's like Burn Jita may **** people off, they are an integral part of what keeps this game alive and interesting.

Mr Epeen Cool
Solecist Project
#67 - 2014-04-02 17:10:30 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I rolled an alt in January, which I'm considering either going to CVA space or moving down to CASs operations in nullsec.
Why?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#68 - 2014-04-02 17:12:06 UTC
Never been to nullsec is as good a reason as any P

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Solecist Project
#69 - 2014-04-02 17:17:00 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Never been to nullsec is as good a reason as any P
That's true. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#70 - 2014-04-02 17:30:45 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Yea. You have never been safer.

"cry"......


I wonder why it is that bears feel the need to use this term so much and always in the wrong place.
Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2014-04-02 17:34:38 UTC
Enraku Reynolt wrote:
funny, quite afew posts complaing about "whiney carebears" What?
who's actually whiney?


What is your definition of whiney? All I see is a discussion about high sec. So far people speaking for ganking have generally accepted how the situation is and are just talking about how it used to be. If that is whining, then you whine all day long in school during history classes too. Because there you also talk about how Things used to be.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#72 - 2014-04-02 17:41:29 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:


The New Order might be run by a moronic RP dweeb that we all love to hate, but without the constant influx of player created content the game would stagnate pretty quickly. As much as things like Hulkagedden, the interdictions and one-off's like Burn Jita may **** people off, they are an integral part of what keeps this game alive and interesting.

Mr Epeen Cool


+1

\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
Solecist Project
#73 - 2014-04-02 17:56:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Barbara Nichole wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Yea. You have never been safer.

"cry"......


I wonder why it is that bears feel the need to use this term so much and always in the wrong place.
It's because those who made them cry used it first and people believed that coming back at them using the same term somehow makes those they hate feel the same as they did.

What they don't seem to realize is that it doesn't work that way.
All it does is displaying their hatred and their true character.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#74 - 2014-04-02 17:59:39 UTC
It just hit me like a ton of feathers!


If you people want highsec to be what it was before ...
... why don't you make sure it turns back into it?



If suicide ganking is on an all time low ... (as CCP said so)
... and you people complain about highsec being too safe ...

... then why aren't you making it *less* safe?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#75 - 2014-04-02 18:14:38 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
It just hit me like a ton of feathers!


If you people want highsec to be what it was before ...
... why don't you make sure it turns back into it?



If suicide ganking is on an all time low ... (as CCP said so)
... and you people complain about highsec being too safe ...

... then why aren't you making it *less* safe?


Your very questions highlight the problem.

What representation we players do have with CCP in the form of the CSM are nullsec bloc centric players who actually don't have full knowledge of all that hisec piracy and conflict mechanics are about, nor give a flying f#ck about said mechanics. All they care about is nullsec, modular fricken POS's, (maybee losec and wormholes), and occasionally they might do a gank with an alt in hisec. But lets be real, they see hisec conflict and pew as a misnomer. The epitome of their (and your) understanding of pew in hisec is 'ganking'. (sigh)

Evidence of this, is the long sad list of nerfs made by CCP unchallenged, with null-fixated CSM's dropping the sandbox ball on their watch.

tldr; Psychotic Monk for CSM 9.

F

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Solecist Project
#76 - 2014-04-02 18:22:34 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Bullshit.
Bullshit.

You suck at what you do. You should hire somebody for your PR related crap. It's too bland, too obvious and doesn't actually trigger any emotions.

Whatever you do, I'm sure you're good at it ... but this definitely isn't it.



BUT BESIDES THAT ... YOU COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT OF THE QUESTION!
(emphasis added by author)


Dare I say that you have no actual clue on the matter anymore. You're completely disconnected. All you see is CCP and CSM and stupid rules and laws in game that still don't actually change the outcomes of things in space happening!


Ships explode!


Nowadays less ships explode than before! (the amount of suicide ganks is on an all time low!)


Blaming the law is easy, but it's not the law that keeps people from exploding other ships!


There is no law preventing that! There's no CSM preventing that either!





So why do less ships explode now than they did before? (it's really not that hard to figure out)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2014-04-02 19:19:49 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Shadowlightt wrote:
Anyone notice how much hi sec has changed in the last 4 years? Like the order and things.

To be honest, if high sec, or any other part of the game, was still the same as it was four years ago, the population would have gotten bored to the point where half of them would have left by now..

The New Order might be run by a moronic RP dweeb that we all love to hate, but without the constant influx of player created content the game would stagnate pretty quickly. As much as things like Hulkagedden, the interdictions and one-off's like Burn Jita may **** people off, they are an integral part of what keeps this game alive and interesting.

Mr Epeen Cool

I disagree with this. I think EvE is kept alive because it has some really great elements in spite of the ganking, idiocy and the influx of failed WoW pvp'rs we now have.

I think if CCP cleaned the crap out of its sandbox, it'd be much more alive, not less. You can create content in the game using the normal game mechanics like war decs. There's no reason to duck under the fence and suicide, its not new content, its old stale ganking that I first saw in EQ in 1999 when losers found out you could heal the opposite team while being immune to your own. No different, same win at all costs mentality.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

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Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#78 - 2014-04-02 19:38:26 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I disagree with this. I think EvE is kept alive because it has some really great elements in spite of the ganking, idiocy and the influx of failed WoW pvp'rs we now have.


I disagree, lol. I'm under the assumption that Eve is one of if not the only mmo to survive 10+ years precisely because it's different than all the other "less harsh" MMO's out there. Unlike the other games, Eve is not, I believe, intended to appeal to the broadest possible audience. It appeals to a certain demographic, and I think it was a genious business decision for someone there in Iceland to say "hmmm, there's not a place for people who would like suchandsuch style of gameplay to go..." and they were right, so they provided a place, the only place, so far as I know, for people to enjoy this style of gameplay, and because of that they have gained a fiercely loyal and passionate playerbase. Like I said, brilliant business decision on somebody's part. And also like I said, it's NOT for everyone.

Quote:

I think if CCP cleaned the crap out of its sandbox, it'd be much more alive, not less.


I'm not sure, and neither of us will ever know which one is right short of a mandatory survey of all the players, lol. I tend to (like to) think that the game would see a mass exodus of a majority of the playerbase if the harsh environment got too soft, but maybe I'm wrong. I just see that every other MMO that's followed the "more player-friendly" model seems to have a life cycle and eventually people get bored, move on to "the next big thing" and the game dies.

Quote:

You can create content in the game using the normal game mechanics like war decs. There's no reason to duck under the fence and suicide, its not new content, its old stale ganking that I first saw in EQ in 1999 when losers found out you could heal the opposite team while being immune to your own. No different, same win at all costs mentality.


What server did you play on? I was on Rallos Zek, and I LOVED it Big smile

(and I still wonder why the term "PK" died out lol)


\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2014-04-02 20:13:43 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
So why do less ships explode now than they did before? (it's really not that hard to figure out)

because some people can't just adapt to new conditions? and it was not carebears unlike many want to think? Cool

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Winchester Steele
#80 - 2014-04-02 20:27:22 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Shadowlightt wrote:
Anyone notice how much hi sec has changed in the last 4 years? Like the order and things.

To be honest, if high sec, or any other part of the game, was still the same as it was four years ago, the population would have gotten bored to the point where half of them would have left by now..

The New Order might be run by a moronic RP dweeb that we all love to hate, but without the constant influx of player created content the game would stagnate pretty quickly. As much as things like Hulkagedden, the interdictions and one-off's like Burn Jita may **** people off, they are an integral part of what keeps this game alive and interesting.

Mr Epeen Cool

I disagree with this. I think EvE is kept alive because it has some really great elements in spite of the ganking, idiocy and the influx of failed WoW pvp'rs we now have.

I think if CCP cleaned the crap out of its sandbox, it'd be much more alive, not less. You can create content in the game using the normal game mechanics like war decs. There's no reason to duck under the fence and suicide, its not new content, its old stale ganking that I first saw in EQ in 1999 when losers found out you could heal the opposite team while being immune to your own. No different, same win at all costs mentality.



^^^ For all you bears who don't know what tears actually look like, Infinity has been so kind as to provide a textbook example ^^^

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