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The skill that they are splitting really makes sense to be the one that is split, there isn't really an easy way to go about fixing this....

big deal in this case means overpowered, like all things ecm-related. remove pls.

I don't understand why the change for the base FiBo damage couldn't be done nn a separate thread (both forum thread and development thread :P).

A change to the base FiBo damage isn't orthogonal to the role of the supercarriers. Imho, it makes much more sense to discuss such a change on a 'Balancing Capitals and Supercapitals" thread (which should be done at some point, sooner rather than later).

The changes regarding the skills that affect the Fighters and FiBos stats (durability / sharpshooting etc) are generally less 'intrusive' and solve a real issue (FiBos annihilated by ISBoxer single bomb runs), although they could also be postponed as well (I don't think anyone would complain :P).

You're changing too much in a single 'iteration' (from light drone DPS to the relative roles of SuperCarriers). It doesn't seem reasonable to me (and you're doing exactly what you said you didn't want to do -- changing too much stuff in one go, so that you cannot isolate and monitor the side-effects of each change on the TQ / the current meta).

So in summary i believe the community hates your dev blog for the following reasons.

1) it makes the nyx have no added value over the Aeon and thus makes the Nyx a valuless ships
A. less low slot?
B. better tank
C. Same or better gank
D. wtf i trained a nyx for a reason your now taking away that reason.

Solutions? Give Nyx very slight damage buff? like 11% damage per skill instead of 10? not sure what they want here.

2) Your increasing the SP Requirements
A) Racial drones = another skills
B) Max Damage has goal post moved, for max damage you now have to invest into 4 lvl 5 skills for max damage to drones, meaning many people at max damage now will be 15% less than max damage post patch
3) Can i say this again? 4 ******* lvl 5 skills must be trained even to 4 that sucks.

Solution?
I see three
1) keep it as is but refund all drone skills post patch allowing players to do wih the drone tree what they will.
2) Change it so that if i can fly it now i can fly it then --- Right now i can fly all sentries post patch i should be able to.
3) For people who have drone interfacing V Refund that skill and any skill that requires that skill because you've nerfed that skill in half.


3) Faction Sentries are better than Tech 2 Sentries
A) your spreadsheet don't lie, Same Base damage, Damage modifier, optimal, fallof, better tracking, more shield/armor/hp
B) This is out of line with other weapons sytems, you must recognize this some peoples primary weapon system.

Solutions: Decrease the tracking speed of Faction sentries to less than that of T2 sentries, or vice versa
Means factions are tankier and have less sp requirement, but less trackign as well.

4) Fighter/Fighter Bomber changes don't solve Bombing problem:
A) still to slow?
B) ISBoxer sucks.
C) Why you no fix ISBoxer
D) your greedy

Solution? End ISBOXER!

The fourth arguement seems to be the worst, and i think Fozzie has answered it, but the other seems to be completely valid concerns that your not taking into account.

Absolutely fair. Could I just ask, then, if there's any sense in keeping Electronic Warfare IV as a prerequisite for Advanced Drone Avionics? If nothing else, you could take the opportunity to break EWAR drones--whatever happens to them--free of that rather awkward prerequisite, yes?

Surely you must be aware, on some level, that none of these things will ever happen.

And regarding your second point, CCP Fozzie has already explicitly stated that CCP will not post-patch reimburse players who already have the capacity to use tech2 sentries that fail to train the specific racial drone specialization skills prior to the actual patch.

Thus, if you wish to keep using your tech2 sentries, you'll have to train their associated racial drone spec skills to a minimum of level 1 - even at a 5x time coefficient, that's only 40m * 4 = 160m = 2.67 hours to keep the bare-minimum requirement of using all 4 tech2 sentry classes.

To get them competent in terms of DPS, though, you'll probably need at least level 4 in each skill, which is no small feat, either. I do feel your pain on that one.

Meiggghhhtttt but I want to go mining dammit.

Alternative implementation I've come up with talking to someone else - require a level in medium or light drone operation to use either T1 or T2, with Scout Drone Operation remaining the deciding factor in whether you can use T2 or not.

It's not exactly consistent with how the other drone skills work, but it also doesn't screw people over much.

i agree we need a drone upgrades skill with a cpu reduction for drone modules per level trained... that way dla wont hurt so much on cpu.

CCP Fozzie,you say that you have allowed enough time for people to train what is needed. Well did you forget the refining changes and the time needed to train to get somewhat close to where a toon is at now. Add in drone training needed and now your claim makes no sense. I am already mapped for Industry/Drones, so its not too bad for me, but a lot of players are going to get hurt when the changes are looked at as a whole.