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Multiple Character Training Price

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Avarus Brightfyre
#21 - 2014-03-28 17:51:49 UTC
This game basically charges you a subscription fee in exchange for skill points per month, and you use those skill points to advance in the game. I suppose my confusion is based on the fact that one option costs far more per skill point than the other, yet gives you less benefit overall. In most business transactions, they don't charge you MORE for each item you buy just because you want to buy more. For example, you get much lower prices buying in bulk because the profits go up since you're buying more units.

I can certainly understand that the point of this service is to allow you to just temporarily train up a character to a certain point and then still have access to it under one subscription fee. That makes sense if you only look at the feature by itself, but it still doesn't explain why the price is so much more for this service. You're still paying much more per skill point for less overall benefit in return.

Do they want to discourage people from training alts on the same account? I'm not trying to start an argument about what the intent of the service is, or what alternatives there are to it. I just want a reasonable answer as to why the price is higher. The reason for the price itself is my only question about this particular topic.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#22 - 2014-03-28 17:58:03 UTC
Avarus Brightfyre wrote:
In most business transactions, they don't charge you MORE for each item you buy just because you want to buy more. For example, you get much lower prices buying in bulk because the profits go up since you're buying more units.
…and EVE is really no different. If you buy 12 months of subscription in one go rather than 1 month at a time, you get a decent discount.

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I can certainly understand that the point of this service is to allow you to just temporarily train up a character to a certain point and then still have access to it under one subscription fee. That makes sense if you only look at the feature by itself, but it still doesn't explain why the price is so much more for this service. You're still paying much more per skill point for less overall benefit in return.
Look at it as paying more for the privilege of doing a short-term deal rather than a long-term commitment. Precisely because it's just meant to be a 2-3 month deal for a single character you already own, rather than a many-years-deal on a character you have to retain access to, you pay a higher cost for those SP.
Ralen Zateki
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#23 - 2014-03-28 18:12:46 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
It's a fair price to pay for a capability that did not even exist for 10 1/2 YEARS of this games life.

Whining about it. for whatever silly reason, isn't going to change anything.

Be glad the cost is not 2 PLEX.



No kidding. It would be a total pain in my ass to move all 65 PLEX out of the cargo hold of my Maller just to redeem a couple....
Avarus Brightfyre
#24 - 2014-03-28 18:26:35 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Look at it as paying more for the privilege of doing a short-term deal rather than a long-term commitment. Precisely because it's just meant to be a 2-3 month deal for a single character you already own, rather than a many-years-deal on a character you have to retain access to, you pay a higher cost for those SP.


Ok, so less demand overall = higher price. I can see that, I suppose.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#25 - 2014-03-28 19:18:21 UTC
Either

A) theres a very good reason for it that you're not seeing because it does not meet your own needs

B) you're implying that everyone that uses this feature is dumb because its such a terrible option compared to the other options.

Its not B.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Avarus Brightfyre
#26 - 2014-03-28 21:55:11 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Either

A) theres a very good reason for it that you're not seeing because it does not meet your own needs

B) you're implying that everyone that uses this feature is dumb because its such a terrible option compared to the other options.

Its not B.


Or....

C) I don't understand the policy and I'm looking for a reasonable answer.

Since when did asking a question mean accusing anyone of being stupid? I asked a question and got a fairly reasonable answer out of it. That makes the thread worth it, to me at least. Why do you feel the need to stick your nose into it if you don't have anything constructive to add?
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#27 - 2014-03-28 22:09:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Avarus Brightfyre wrote:
Since when did asking a question mean accusing anyone of being stupid?

This is GD. If you post here it's for one of 2 reasons:

1. You are stupid, or
2. You are accusing someone else of being stupid.

So you should take his answer as a compliment. Clearly he doesn't think you are stupid, so its all good.

EDIT: um, actually. I just reread his response and saw the last line. Sorry, it might be the other reason.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#28 - 2014-03-29 02:45:26 UTC
I am in full agreement with some of the posters in this thread.

Mr Epeen Cool
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2014-03-29 15:39:46 UTC
Avarus Brightfyre wrote:

I can certainly understand that the point of this service is to allow you to just temporarily train up a character to a certain point and then still have access to it under one subscription fee. That makes sense if you only look at the feature by itself, but it still doesn't explain why the price is so much more for this service. You're still paying much more per skill point for less overall benefit in return.



Because its worth more. A one or two month trained main character alt repays its plex back in the first month or two and forever afterwards gives you free ISK.

A second character costs you a plex or sub every month forever.
Abyss Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-03-30 02:05:20 UTC
Effect One wrote:
I personally don't understand why anyone would want to train two characters on the same account, when you could just run two accounts (even if the prices were the same).

Having to log in and out to change multiple characters on a single account would really **** me off.


It works great for me, it let me make spare PI and trade alts to boost my income without adding to my monthly subs/PLEX. It's completely useless for making high sp dedicated alts, but it's useful for low sp, income boosting alts.
Sarah McKnobbo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-03-30 02:41:18 UTC
Effect One wrote:
I personally don't understand why anyone would want to train two characters on the same account, when you could just run two accounts (even if the prices were the same).

Having to log in and out to change multiple characters on a single account would really **** me off.


Really? You can't see the benefit in only paying 2-3 months of training, instead of an indefinite subscription, to have an alt that doesn't need to be logged in at the same time as your main?
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