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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#1961 - 2014-03-26 04:57:32 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:


Is there a single criminal code that can be linked to that it is clear has been broken here?


I think there have been more laws linked that Sohkar broke than Ero broke... but eh...whos counting right?



Well that is irrelevant. One offense does not cancel out the other. They are separate issues.
Mario Putzo
#1962 - 2014-03-26 04:58:06 UTC
Don't stop, make it pop.
DJ blow my speakers up.
Tonight, I'm a fight,
'til we see the sunlight.
Alec Freeman
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1963 - 2014-03-26 04:58:39 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
What happens on TS3 is not subject to EVE Online's EULA or TOS. I think I said that. Let me scroll up. Oh yes, I did.


How and from where was Sohkar sourced into the TS3?


You should know, you're him.

Your last names are anagrams of one another.


Im putting money on Salvos being Sohkars "wife" actually.



I am not usually one for tinfoil, but I honestly think you may be right here. Oh dear.



Well if he really is Sohkar and he really does want to press charges for "Cyber-Bullying" then his whole case is going to go **** up if they realise he was discussing the incident on here.
Seraph d'Etoiles
Bitter Vets With Less Time
#1964 - 2014-03-26 04:58:42 UTC
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Eve is a bunch of insensitive aspies that can't understand why the rest of the world doesn't understand them.


Aspies are inventing your iPods, Occulus Rifts and whatnot, and writing things like Prinipia Mathematica and General Relativity etc, dork.



Actually, no they aren't. John Carmack isn't an aspie and just sold out for 2b real life cash like any red blooded American would.


This kid, very naive they say.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#1965 - 2014-03-26 04:58:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:


Is there a single criminal code that can be linked to that it is clear has been broken here?


I think there have been more laws linked that Sohkar broke than Ero broke... but eh...whos counting right?


I don't in any way condemn Sokhar for the way he reacted. It was an emotional response and I don't for a second assume he truly meant any of it.

But even one criminal code anywhere to show any form of criminal activity by anyone would be helpful to my poor mind.

There has been a lot of discussion about criminal activity and it seems so slam dunked that a judge and jury would plainly find Ero and others guilty.

If it's so open and shut, what criminal law exactly is being referred to?
Ismol Mond
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1966 - 2014-03-26 04:59:17 UTC
I think the whole thing is a scam myself and that Sucker fellow and that girl that claimed to be his wife are a part of it.
You've all been had!
And even if it is real, it just shows why EVE is a great game and all others pale in comparison. Half a million subscribers, making the news, the long gone steep learning curve, actual repercussions for faulty decisions in game and out etc. Compare that to some staid, fill in the blank game out there.
One thing for sure, the most sociopathic posts are by those creeps who keep trying to make a federal case out of this.
Repeat after me, all you whose feelings have been hurt because you played EVE. "I am not a beautiful and unique snowflake" Repeat this over and over again until you grow up.
Winchester Steele
#1967 - 2014-03-26 04:59:24 UTC
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Eve is a bunch of insensitive aspies that can't understand why the rest of the world doesn't understand them. News at 11.

I quit this game about three months ago, thank yeezus. This game is cancer to having any sort of social interaction. I am so thankful I'm not beholden to a large amount of sociopathic people anymore. This game reeks of them.

The only people that understand that you play and enjoy and get mad and get happy about spaceships are other people who are socially broken. No ifs ands or buts. This entire game is filled with toxic & broken people. That's why Eve will never go anywhere than it is now. If Yeezus is good, this game will stay in the back waters of the internet. I have it on good authority this will stay this way because most of the fanbase involved in this game are incapable of passing on their legacy.

Oh and did you see, Facebook bought Occulus? Lol gg Valkyrie.


Preaching to the choir.



Pst. When you sock puppet, you have to switch pilots. Shh I won't say anything.

...

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1968 - 2014-03-26 04:59:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Eve is a bunch of insensitive aspies that can't understand why the rest of the world doesn't understand them.


Aspies are inventing your iPods, Occulus Rifts and whatnot, and writing things like Prinipia Mathematica and General Relativity etc, dork.



Actually, no they aren't. John Carmack isn't an aspie and just sold out for 2b real life cash like any red blooded American would.


What I'm saying, if you were to understand the gist of it, is that generally speaking, aspies are not what you think they are. Social dysfunction is only one trait, and not all aspies exhibit it to the same degree, if at all. To call someone 'aspie' as a derogatory based on preconceived ideas of what Aspergers or autism are is not only an insult to them, but one to your own intelligence. Especially if you actually think you're clever.

Cuz I'll guarantee you most aspies are much smarter than you. So if you don't want to get done for discrimination by piling all aspies into one stereotype, stop using the word to pile them all in together. Thanks.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#1969 - 2014-03-26 05:01:10 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Erotica1's conduct throughout the recording was extremely calm and civil. Sohkar hanged himself, especially with his death threats and racist tirade.


Calm and civil? CALM AND CIVIL!?!?!

Surely these be the hallmarks of witchcraft! Prepare the stake! BURN THE WITCH!

Oh, the death threats and racist slurs guy..naw..hes cool..let him go.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Space Juden
Supermassive Potato Pancake
#1970 - 2014-03-26 05:03:46 UTC
His wife getting involved was a tragic final stanza

I think we all can agree on that
Salvos Rhoska
#1971 - 2014-03-26 05:04:10 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
What happens on TS3 is not subject to EVE Online's EULA or TOS. I think I said that. Let me scroll up. Oh yes, I did.


How and from where was Sohkar sourced into the TS3?


You should know, you're him.

Your last names are anagrams of one another.


Im putting money on Salvos being Sohkars "wife" actually.



I am not usually one for tinfoil, but I honestly think you may be right here. Oh dear.



Invite me to a Bonus Room and hear for yourself.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Seraph d'Etoiles
Bitter Vets With Less Time
#1972 - 2014-03-26 05:05:14 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Eve is a bunch of insensitive aspies that can't understand why the rest of the world doesn't understand them.


Aspies are inventing your iPods, Occulus Rifts and whatnot, and writing things like Prinipia Mathematica and General Relativity etc, dork.



Actually, no they aren't. John Carmack isn't an aspie and just sold out for 2b real life cash like any red blooded American would.


What I'm saying, if you were to understand the gist of it, is that generally speaking, aspies are not what you think they are. Social dysfunction is only one trait, and not all aspies exhibit it to the same degree, if at all. To call someone 'aspie' as a derogatory based on preconceived ideas of what Aspergers or autism are is not only an insult to them, but one to your own intelligence. Especially if you actually think you're clever.

Cuz I'll guarantee you most aspies are much smarter than you. So if you don't want to get done for discrimination by piling all aspies into one stereotype, stop using the word to pile them all in together. Thanks.


Blah blah blah. Aspies didn't invent the iPod: FACT. Steve Jobs was nowhere near a slightly austistic fat nerd. Sorry, bro, they're pretty much on the short end of the stick, evolutionary speaking.

This is pretty much all eve players: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbfBjo-Mw6U
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1973 - 2014-03-26 05:05:36 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Erotica1's conduct throughout the recording was extremely calm and civil. Sohkar hanged himself, especially with his death threats and racist tirade.


Calm and civil? CALM AND CIVIL!?!?!

Surely these be the hallmarks of witchcraft! Prepare the stake! BURN THE WITCH!

Oh, the death threats and racist slurs guy..naw..hes cool..let him go.

Of course he's cool, we don't burn our own. What are you, a COMMUNIST?
Mario Putzo
#1974 - 2014-03-26 05:05:46 UTC
Ok Ok ill do it.

I will become the DECIDER. I didn't want this, but you have chosen me to be the Supreme Commander of Moral Authority. I do not take this burden lightly my friends.

I will think upon this matter an make my decision. I must first consult with my councilors Mary Jane and Jack Daniels.
Xander Delacroix
Doomheim
#1975 - 2014-03-26 05:05:49 UTC
Having read every post in this thread (I've been very bored today) I've noticed a pattern developing. With a few exceptions, such as Malcanis and a few of the Goonies, almost every post decrying "racist and death threatening behaviour" has sounded remarkably similar... almost as if it was written by the same person, or by a small number of people. Interesting that.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1976 - 2014-03-26 05:05:51 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Erotica1's conduct throughout the recording was extremely calm and civil. Sohkar hanged himself, especially with his death threats and racist tirade.


Calm and civil? CALM AND CIVIL!?!?!

Surely these be the hallmarks of witchcraft! Prepare the stake! BURN THE WITCH!

Oh, the death threats and racist slurs guy..naw..hes cool..let him go.


He harrased him by being polite and respectful, especially when he asked Sohkar to give him all his stuff. You're just jealous at how much more successful Erotica 1 is than you and acquiring belongings aren't you???

Don't wait for the translation!!!

Answer the question!!!!


... oh was it ok to slip into Star Trek now? Its been like 100 or so pages.*


* dammit.. only 99...

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#1977 - 2014-03-26 05:05:57 UTC
Folks, signing out of this whole discussion with a simple summary. Nothing constructive will come out of it and I need to stop replying to the thugs that imply RL violence repeatedly.



1. Ero was 'nasty' but within the bounds of the permissable according to current game rules and the law.
2. Sokhar's conduct was outside the bounds of the permissable, but I'm willing to forgive that as he'd just been handed a pretty serious in-game defeat and was angry. I do not feel that someone with his anger issues should be playing viciously competitive games like EVE (or poker for that matter), but that is his call and his alone to make. His conduct was, in any case, at worst on-par with Mitten's idiotic drunken outburst at Fanfest.
3. Ripard's a smart man, and no doubt this was an intervention into the CSM election. GF Ripard - you've played that well and it will probably work for you. Hats off to you for being ruthless, competitive and unsportsmanlike here to get your way.
4. The RL threats Ero has received after this incident are, in some cases, totally beyond the pale.


Ero's game, if you haven't noticed, is to set up rules that are codified and clear that he obeys 100% of the time, and then manipulate people into breaking them while remaining 100% honest.
Sometimes he's done that via other means (collusion with one participant in group bonus rounds; which was never prohibited in Ero's stated rules), other times it's by tricking people into agreeing to a game with ill-defined rules ("you must show faith") and simply waiting until they fail at it, getting them to do more and more ridiculous things like pod themselves over and over to lose SP. Eventually, a large enough percentage of them 'lose faith' that Ero can claim victory, give a few of the goods wagered to his accomplices, and keep most for himself. Sometimes, those reserves are needed because someone doesn't waver and wins the game, but that is very rare.

He then releases the audio to build notoriety (after having got permission to do so as a first step).


If I were Ero, I'd have shut this round down earlier, as soon as Sohkar unambiguously broke the rules Ero had set for the game, so that I could keep the 100% honesty reputation intact. But that's me.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1978 - 2014-03-26 05:06:05 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:

I don't in any way condemn Sokhar for the way he reacted. It was an emotional response and I don't for a second assume he truly meant any of it.


Really??? Well, its nice to know the next time someone scams me out of virtual goods that the game company owns I'm allowed to make real life death threats and go on an ugly racist rant cause people like you will support me. Roll

Ask violent criminals after the crime, and 99.9% had an emotional response and didn't mean it. The reason we lock them up is because their emotional response is a danger to society.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Seraph d'Etoiles
Bitter Vets With Less Time
#1979 - 2014-03-26 05:09:10 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Seraph d'Etoiles wrote:
Eve is a bunch of insensitive aspies that can't understand why the rest of the world doesn't understand them. News at 11.

I quit this game about three months ago, thank yeezus. This game is cancer to having any sort of social interaction. I am so thankful I'm not beholden to a large amount of sociopathic people anymore. This game reeks of them.

The only people that understand that you play and enjoy and get mad and get happy about spaceships are other people who are socially broken. No ifs ands or buts. This entire game is filled with toxic & broken people. That's why Eve will never go anywhere than it is now. If Yeezus is good, this game will stay in the back waters of the internet. I have it on good authority this will stay this way because most of the fanbase involved in this game are incapable of passing on their legacy.

Oh and did you see, Facebook bought Occulus? Lol gg Valkyrie.


Preaching to the choir.



Pst. When you sock puppet, you have to switch pilots. Shh I won't say anything.


What if I told you...

I wasn't sock puppeteering?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#1980 - 2014-03-26 05:09:29 UTC
Xander Delacroix wrote:
Having read every post in this thread (I've been very bored today) I've noticed a pattern developing. With a few exceptions, such as Malcanis and a few of the Goonies, almost every post decrying "racist and death threatening behaviour" has sounded remarkably similar... almost as if it was written by the same person, or by a small number of people. Interesting that.


Yes, we are all Erotica 1 alts. Didn't you know there are only like 3 real people who actually play this game? This whole thread is nothing but 3 people arguing using vast alt armies.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?