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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#1241 - 2014-03-25 23:12:13 UTC
Mag's wrote:
You're OK in my book, no matter what sett ya kilt is. Big smile


This is now a thread about kilts and deep-fried haggis.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1242 - 2014-03-25 23:12:44 UTC
Mag's wrote:
You're OK in my book, no matter what sett ya kilt is. Big smile


ooh close, try going left a bit when you reach Fort William. Say, about 40 miles lol

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Dave stark
#1243 - 2014-03-25 23:12:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Saw it comingLol


can i make a "that's what she said" joke?

because, that's what she said.
Dave stark
#1244 - 2014-03-25 23:13:40 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Kadl wrote:
If this or any similar acts becomes a major news story CCP is going to have problems. The headline "Cyberbullying in EVE" will create unwanted attention. As a business, CCP should consider the situation and act so as to protect their profits and the game.

Personally I would like to see more sportsmanship in EVE. I think that would be a good use of CCP's efforts.



Already sent the tip to CNN, BBC, Guardian, and couple of other news sites I read. Someone is bound to pick this up.

Spread the word! Force CCP to act!


They are going to get a racist shouting at other people. You honestly expect the Beeb to take his side?


i hear the beeb aren't going to have enough funding to publish the story, even if they wanted to.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1245 - 2014-03-25 23:14:36 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Kadl wrote:
If this or any similar acts becomes a major news story CCP is going to have problems. The headline "Cyberbullying in EVE" will create unwanted attention. As a business, CCP should consider the situation and act so as to protect their profits and the game.

Personally I would like to see more sportsmanship in EVE. I think that would be a good use of CCP's efforts.



Already sent the tip to CNN, BBC, Guardian, and couple of other news sites I read. Someone is bound to pick this up.

Spread the word! Force CCP to act!


They are going to get a racist shouting at other people. You honestly expect the Beeb to take his side?


i hear the beeb aren't going to have enough funding to publish the story, even if they wanted to.


She should sent it to Channel 4 News. Jon Snow likes a laugh I hear.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1246 - 2014-03-25 23:14:37 UTC
Kadl wrote:
If this or any similar acts becomes a major news story CCP is going to have problems. The headline "Cyberbullying in EVE" will create unwanted attention. As a business, CCP should consider the situation and act so as to protect their profits and the game.

Personally I would like to see more sportsmanship in EVE. I think that would be a good use of CCP's efforts.


A 2 hour event is not cyber bullying. Would you please stop using that term as it is an insult to people actually suffering from this.
Winchester Steele
#1247 - 2014-03-25 23:15:22 UTC
Xander Delacroix wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Batelle wrote:
Malcolm from Marketing wrote:
Erotica got that guys assets/isk in that recording, but instead of kicking him and moving on, decided instead to prolong his humiliation for his own and his hangers on amusements.


The size of this thread is evidence enough that Erotica1 stood to gain more than just assets/isk.


This thread alone is greater payout than the isk.


And therein lies the problem at the heart of this issue. Every player who gets their jollies from the pain of others, whether due to scamming, ganking in game, or through public humiliation, are all contributing to the toxic environment that drives existing players out and keeps new players away. What happens when all the victims are gone and the trolls and griefers and tormentors turn on each other? Well, not a lot, because the plug would have been pulled long before that.



Hey dumbass. This game is over 10 years old. Idiots like you have been spouting this same bs for the whole time, and yet here we are doing better than ever.

I subbed to this game because of stuff like this and I know many many others who feel similarly. HTFU son.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1248 - 2014-03-25 23:15:59 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Saw it comingLol


can i make a "that's what she said" joke?

because, that's what she said.


Pff, you should go with the whole FOX News, "goons are a CIA front" angle and pointed out that I said I "saw it coming"Blink
Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
#1249 - 2014-03-25 23:16:01 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:
Actually, the REALLY scary bit?

That Sohkar is supposedly a FRIGGEN Air Traffic Controller.
I will express myself in Chinese.

Ho Lee Fuk.

Seriously, I think CCP, having his 'real life' information - should report Sohkar to the proper authorities.

Somebody this obviously unstable and insane should NOT be directing aircraft in ANY capacity.

Erotica 1 actually did us a great service by exposing a clear and present risk to public safety.

Would YOU feel comfortable landing at a busy airport staffed by someone like Sohkar?





guess now we know what happened to that malaysian aircraft.


Seriously.

While I think it reflects quite badly on CCP for a sitting CSM member to be using his blog to launch highly defamatory and personal attacks on another member of the EVE community.....its still small-ball compared to the larger issue.

Somebody who demonstrates the lack of judgement and sheer emotional instability of Sohkar forfeits their right to work in a capacity that involves the lives and safety of hundreds, if not thousands of people.

Erotica 1 could be a shoe-salesman or an astronaut or a truck driver, it doesn't matter because he demonstrated a degree of self-control and level-headedness. I don't think I'd be concerned for my safety if he was guiding my Boeing 777 into JFK.

Sohkar, on the other hand? CCP should be reporting that dude to the proper American authorities to insure he isn't anywhere within 20 miles of a control tower.....he's simply an accident waiting to happen.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1250 - 2014-03-25 23:16:03 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Jayem See wrote:
Marie Trudeau wrote:
Bad behavior all around, but nothing actionable.

Y

I also find the racism and threats from the victim to be as troubling, if not more troubling, than the scammer's sadism. Yes, people say things when they are at a breaking point, but it doesn't excuse the blatant racism in the least.
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I don't find that the most troubling thing here. What I do find troubling is that a group iof people finds it funny to incite somebody so hard that they lose it and resort to that kind of language.

Surely you must be reasonable enough to recognise when someone has been baited so hard that they lose their temper and say things that they regret.


I had several people send me death threats for over a week when we ran the mining interdictions. There is never an excuse for unironic racism or death threats over a game.


I completely agree with you. No need. I also don't find the need to humiliate someone for a long time having stripped them of their assets, until they completely lose it and are obviously in distress, necessary either. To then glorify it and put it out for general consumption shows a kind of callousness I haven't seen before in this game.

Line overstepped in this instance.



Aaaaaaand relax.

Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#1251 - 2014-03-25 23:16:41 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:

Already sent the tip to CNN, BBC, Guardian, and couple of other news sites I read. Someone is bound to pick this up.

Spread the word! Force CCP to act!


So if anything, youre like, trying to force CCP to change their game to your liking by threatening to cripple their business? Who is the one using blackmailing/extortion techniques now?
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1252 - 2014-03-25 23:16:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Kadl wrote:
If this or any similar acts becomes a major news story CCP is going to have problems. The headline "Cyberbullying in EVE" will create unwanted attention. As a business, CCP should consider the situation and act so as to protect their profits and the game.

Personally I would like to see more sportsmanship in EVE. I think that would be a good use of CCP's efforts.



Already sent the tip to CNN, BBC, Guardian, and couple of other news sites I read. Someone is bound to pick this up.

Spread the word! Force CCP to act!


They are going to get a racist shouting at other people. You honestly expect the Beeb to take his side?



Doesn't matter whose side they take. What matters is they will say EVE allows and tolerates this kind of thing - and thats a BIG negative for CCP right there. It might attract a few dozen sadists to the game, but it will turn off a lot more normal guys.

The idea is for CCP to be forced into preventative measures - such as, I dont know, booting E1, his alts, his friends? That would be appropriate. Better then high school justice at fanfest, and probably more effective then cancelling subscriptions by regular people.
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1253 - 2014-03-25 23:17:02 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Muestereate wrote:
This harmless singing humiliation thing. I've only heard about it in child's playgrounds... and mafia/military films.

Just for perspective Is Erotica in his teens yet? If so this is evidence of a compulsive uncontrollable age regression. The malice and forethought plus the regression is typical of most incarcerated criminals. Under the hardened skin is a child treating others as they themselves have been treated. They take on their parents or significant relationships role, Curse or Witch role depending on gender, They are similar except for repressed sexual content or lack thereof.

In most of the sympathizers response we see the banal script of powerlessness as it has been called. In the proponents of this action, through their referrals to legality are playing out the banal script of Inequality. This script has a lot to do with competition. Unfortunately the competition is between male and female psyches. Erotica is of course the female being the manipulator. When a woman does this to a man its amusing until it get destructive. Its actually a form of penile envy that expresses itself like most jealousies as a passive aggresive angry vengeance (oral violence). As the severity of the game progresses it develops from oral to anal elements. And yes, extreme obsessions with rigid structures is an anal compulsion.

In real life this is what women do to men when they lead them on and then reject them acting outraged. It can progress to actual charges of **** or violence against the person they are victimizing. Many have seen this in action in the clubs. You know, the ones that flash you then act as if they didn't do it and that your a meat hound. The only solution is to stay away, we know that, and thats why we stay away. The undercurrent is to prove the victim is lascivious, thereby justifying that all men are bad and avoiding the pain of dealing with her daddy issues.

One last point about the anal characteristics of this female game. According to Erickson human development theory, the perpetrator was perpetrated on a bit later. Probably between 3.5 to 8 years. Erotica would do well to isolate trauma(s) during this age, abandonment, abuse, and shame projections of others and have a professional help (HER) process it.

Barring Erotica's own seeking of help, do to the poor adaptation of these women, they do not tolerate antithesis well and usually run if not supported by others of peer to continue there justification of man hatred. Without admiration the patient flees treatment and is instead best counseled with groups of similar minded peers that have shown some reversal. These people don' t pile on the shame and pain on top of subconscious wounds. CCP would do many people a service including Erotica by not condoning this play-style. Its an illness.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Also, the bolded parts: Shocked
Dave stark
#1254 - 2014-03-25 23:17:23 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Saw it comingLol


can i make a "that's what she said" joke?

because, that's what she said.


Pff, you should go with the whole FOX News, "goons are a CIA front" angle and pointed out that I said I "saw it coming"Blink


it's late, i can't come up with ideas that good when i should be getting ready for bed.

i should also be having tomorrow off but, c'est la vie.
Snupe Doggur
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1255 - 2014-03-25 23:18:14 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Already sent the tip to CNN, BBC, Guardian, and couple of other news sites I read. Someone is bound to pick this up.

Spread the word! Force CCP to act!
Forcing CCP to act is a worthy goal, but I am more interested in quality than in speed. A quick banhammer will only fuel the apologists and rules lawyers who always demand to know exactly where a line is drawn. Just get it right, CCP, and protect yourselves from the association--whether or not you desire a particular outcome for this situation.
handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#1256 - 2014-03-25 23:18:25 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
handige harrie wrote:

Except all his hours of work also dissapear with that click, while they keep up appearances that he can get it back if he continues in the masquarade. (which is obviously not the case, but at this point he is to emotionally involved to quit)


Heres another weird thing, we all know Erotica 1 is a scammer right? But there is also the possibility that he might pay out once in awhile.
Now, listening to the recording, the dude was asked to do some things to "win", he didnt do it, he was told not to get offensive, we all know how that went. NONE OF US, except for Erotica 1, knows what would have happened if this person actually did what was said.
So to all of you who said claim that he was "tortured" for nothing, you absolutely cannot prove that he couldnt possibly have gotten his stuff back if he had actually sung the 2 songs (or however many it was)


Calling it 'torture' is bs, it's a bad choice of words as a torture victim is scarred physically or emotionally for the rest of his/her (sometimes neither) life from the events that transpired during the 'sessions' or afraid to lose his life or will to life at that moment.

The opposite is also true, how could the victim trust Erotica and Co. that he would win or lose all his stuff when, while he did not sing, Erotica and Co. they did continue to push him to go further, breaking their own 'rules'.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#1257 - 2014-03-25 23:19:06 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Kadl wrote:
If this or any similar acts becomes a major news story CCP is going to have problems. The headline "Cyberbullying in EVE" will create unwanted attention. As a business, CCP should consider the situation and act so as to protect their profits and the game.

Personally I would like to see more sportsmanship in EVE. I think that would be a good use of CCP's efforts.



Already sent the tip to CNN, BBC, Guardian, and couple of other news sites I read. Someone is bound to pick this up.

Spread the word! Force CCP to act!


Coming from a person that has made two threats of RL violence against Ero?

You are aware that in the UK (where you seem to be) making threats of physical violence against someone is a criminal offense, right?

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Dave stark
#1258 - 2014-03-25 23:19:27 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Kadl wrote:
If this or any similar acts becomes a major news story CCP is going to have problems. The headline "Cyberbullying in EVE" will create unwanted attention. As a business, CCP should consider the situation and act so as to protect their profits and the game.

Personally I would like to see more sportsmanship in EVE. I think that would be a good use of CCP's efforts.



Already sent the tip to CNN, BBC, Guardian, and couple of other news sites I read. Someone is bound to pick this up.

Spread the word! Force CCP to act!


They are going to get a racist shouting at other people. You honestly expect the Beeb to take his side?



Doesn't matter whose side they take. What matters is they will say EVE allows and tolerates this kind of thing - and thats a BIG negative for CCP right there. It might attract a few dozen sadists to the game, but it will turn off a lot more normal guys.

The idea is for CCP to be forced into preventative measures - such as, I dont know, booting E1, his alts, his friends? That would be appropriate. Better then high school justice at fanfest, and probably more effective then cancelling subscriptions by regular people.


"eve tolerates abuse on unrelated third party voice communications they have no control of"

i'm sure the outcry will be deafening.
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#1259 - 2014-03-25 23:19:34 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Kadl wrote:
If this or any similar acts becomes a major news story CCP is going to have problems. The headline "Cyberbullying in EVE" will create unwanted attention. As a business, CCP should consider the situation and act so as to protect their profits and the game.

Personally I would like to see more sportsmanship in EVE. I think that would be a good use of CCP's efforts.



Already sent the tip to CNN, BBC, Guardian, and couple of other news sites I read. Someone is bound to pick this up.

Spread the word! Force CCP to act!


They are going to get a racist shouting at other people. You honestly expect the Beeb to take his side?



Doesn't matter whose side they take. What matters is they will say EVE allows and tolerates this kind of thing - and thats a BIG negative for CCP right there. It might attract a few dozen sadists to the game, but it will turn off a lot more normal guys.

The idea is for CCP to be forced into preventative measures - such as, I dont know, booting E1, his alts, his friends? That would be appropriate. Better then high school justice at fanfest, and probably more effective then cancelling subscriptions by regular people.


The logic behind your post is flawed, CCP cannot and should not be trying to control what is said on teamspeak, its not within their game, why is it their business?
If this was happening in the ingame chat, CCP totally should act, racism and death threats should not be tolerated.
handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#1260 - 2014-03-25 23:19:34 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:

Already sent the tip to CNN, BBC, Guardian, and couple of other news sites I read. Someone is bound to pick this up.

Spread the word! Force CCP to act!


So if anything, youre like, trying to force CCP to change their game to your liking by threatening to cripple their business? Who is the one using blackmailing/extortion techniques now?


Is that not the ultimate metagame? Or is that Politics?

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