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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7241 - 2014-03-28 08:05:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Coffee Rocks wrote:
EVE Plex: Sociopath Callout: Erotica 1
The Coffee Rocks: The Airlock
Jester's Trek: The Bonus Round
Align to Ramble: Sociopaths In Space
Warp To 0: Slippery Slopes
Mabrik's Mumblings: It's a Discussion the Gaming Community Needs to Have
EVE Inudstrialist: EVE (EVil Entities)
Hardcore Casual: Too Much tolerance
Foo's EVE Musings: The incident in a certain room

Blog posts are really not much different from coming to the forum to offer an opinion. They just provide a separate platform to use.

So given that you are already here, at most that amounts to an additional 7 voices (Ripard having already added to this thread also).

Those voices are just as valuable as everyone else's, but there's nothing mystical or special about a blog post that gives it any more weight in the argument than the threadnaught that we have built here.

I'd include it all as valuable information, but blog posts don't change the overall conclusion we will each take away from this.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#7242 - 2014-03-28 08:07:17 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
[We went over this yesterday before you left the forum in a huff. Remember you were going to tattletale on me, then never posted again?


Yes, we did. And none of them say that I wish bodily harm on Erotica1 :)

Shall we discuss your libel against an elected CSM?

Or would you prefer to discuss that there is infact no objective way to win the Bonus Round and that its only purpose is to elicit suffering from the victims so listeners can fap?


Go right ahead. Go to CCP right now and try and get me in trouble for libel. There are hundreds of posts in this very thread that are ACTUAL libel. If you want to report me for apparent slandering Ripard Teg go pick a post and report it. If I get banned I get banned. Big whoop.


The hypocrisy from that guy is astounding.
He's morally outraged about Ero asking people to sing songs on TS (equating it to bullying)
but for hundreds of pages he's made veiled threats, and repeatedly told everyone how he would personally love it and applaud if someone physically harmed erotica.

He has no issue with the libel he, Ripard Teg, and others are throwing around, but he's butthurt about others saying stuff about Ripard.

He's excused Sokhars racial abuse and death threats because they were done out of game, yet wants Ero's out of game actions heavily punished.

He must be a troll, no one can be so blatantly contradictory on such a consistent and massive scale
Person B
Doomheim
#7243 - 2014-03-28 08:07:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Person B
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Just copy and past this 300 more times and you will have the whole thread:

Person A: This isnt as bad as you seem to think it is

Person B: You are Satan


Why do I always come up in these things?

Person A is not Satan. I am.

Oops, might have answered my own question.
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#7244 - 2014-03-28 08:08:27 UTC
Morihei Akachi wrote:
Asia Leigh wrote:
Coffee Rocks wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
Hmmm, so no official response from CCP yet.


Well it's good to know there are no boundaries when it comes to issues such as this. Harassment, bullying and humiliation is accepted in Eve Online.

Will be interesting to see how scams of this nature escalates, considering CCP hasn't given any official response yet.



quit trying to relight the fire. Sohkar ended it himself.


I know you really, really want it to be stamped out but it's just too late. You guys lit it and didn't realize EVERYONE would see. And ffs, Ripard is a good guy - why do you guys hate on him so much? <-- That's a serious Q, I really don't know what he did. Was it before my time? Or, was it just THIS? Because of him using Erotica's "Bonus Room" to highlight just how far into "horrible" we've let the community needle slide?

I know you really, really want this to be the "end all", but sorry, it's not about the individual harmed. It's about the individuals that do the harming.

Just for fun, I'm going to list a whole string of blogs people mailed to me that share our viewpoint (some call for bans, some don't, but are of the same theme).

EVE Plex: Sociopath Callout: Erotica 1
The Coffee Rocks: The Airlock
Jester's Trek: The Bonus Round
Align to Ramble: Sociopaths In Space
Warp To 0: Slippery Slopes
Mabrik's Mumblings: It's a Discussion the Gaming Community Needs to Have
EVE Inudstrialist: EVE (EVil Entities)
Hardcore Casual: Too Much tolerance
Foo's EVE Musings: The incident in a certain room


And whos fault is that? Here's a hint its not any one who was on the recording of this particular 'bonus room' round...

So you assume that none of the authors of these pieces has actually listened to the recording themselves, that they've just uncritically copied what Ripard Teg says? You do them a disservice, I suspect.


Hmm... Did I actually say that in my post? Also have you even listened to the recording? The only thing remotely border line here was the 1 comment about his speech issues. It was one quick snide remark and never bought up again. I hear that ransoming someones ship or assets for singing on TS is a new and revaluating thing in eve. Amirite?

I ask again, Why is it that people care now when an idiot posts it on his blog and not when this hit the forums last month?
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Big Lynx
#7245 - 2014-03-28 08:09:04 UTC
quoting Louis Robichaud:

Some sidenotes FYI:

So, first some information.

I don't think all of you understand what goes on in the "Bonus Room" where Erotica1 and his croonies torment their "clients". I've never been in there. There has been allegedly hundreds of "clients" (ie, victims). Here are 3 examples:

1: In one case, a German player was made to sign a Nazi anthem, something that is repugnant *and* illegal in Germany.

2: In another, a player was coerced into covering himself into mayonnaise and taking a photo (video?). I don't know much more, except that this apparently creeped out the goons so much that they kicked Erotica1 out.

3: In the "current" incident, the victim was made to read texts for *over an hour* despite the fact that he has a speech impediment. Every time he mispronounced a word, he was corrected and made to read the definition of that word. He then was requested to sing songs.

In many cases, the victim is tormented in the bonus room until they freak out. That's the goal.

If the victims didn't comply to these cruel demands, they lost *all their isk and goods*.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#7246 - 2014-03-28 08:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: KnowUsByTheDead
Morihei Akachi wrote:


So you assume that none of the authors of these pieces has actually listened to the recording themselves, that they've just uncritically copied what Ripard Teg says? You do them a disservice, I suspect.



And you or these people have not listened to every other bonus round recording either.

sohkar was a fringe case, and Ripard knew that.

Nikul Naath one month prior played the BR like a champ, and also "Good Fight'd" me afterwards, when I stood in his corp and possessed his shares. And that too was featured on Minerbumping.

Refer to page 88 for my post on facts, as well a Kristalll's full twitch stream.

And quit linking a bunch of blogs.

Now you are doing nothing more than rabble-rousing for page views.

Much like our "wonderful" CSM representative.

Roll

*edit fixed quote

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7247 - 2014-03-28 08:09:23 UTC
Tarojan wrote:
he has common sense and isnt a moron.


Please send help, can't breathe, laughing too hard.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7248 - 2014-03-28 08:12:37 UTC
Person B wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Just copy and past this 300 more times and you will have the whole thread:

Person A: This isnt as bad as you seem to think it is

Person B: You are Satan


Why do I always come up in these things?

Person A is not Satan. I am.

Oops, might have answered my own question.



Thats what Person C said but I dunno, he's a troll, I hear

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#7249 - 2014-03-28 08:15:11 UTC
Done. Read it all. Happy.

Ok, ok, some loose ends still left;
First and formost; When can we expect a reaction from the instigator of this failed witchhunt?

Now Ero is kinda vindicated and Sokhar does seem to be a normal human being as well It's safe to say that I was right all along and din't waste my last few days trying to type some sense into you people!
neenerneenerneener Lol


Now, again:
I'd like to point your attention to this recording of voice comms WTH INGAME FOOTAGE.
What do you think? This shedoo guy crossed a major line, didn't he? I really feel like he did.
And it's on the youtube, with footage of EVE online included... terrible.
Can we get a twitch channel going to get all involved to speak about how they feel before people grab pitchforks to get this shedoo guy?

D.

Bear

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Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7250 - 2014-03-28 08:16:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
So, does anyone else wonder if Luminous Spirit really went to the FBI, the ESRB and all those watchdog groups?

Because I'm reasonably sure that making false reports to the FBI is a crime. And a pretty hefty one, too. Even if it's done out of stupidity, btw.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Morihei Akachi
Doomheim
#7251 - 2014-03-28 08:21:09 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Morihei Akachi wrote:


So you assume that none of the authors of these pieces has actually listened to the recording themselves, that they've just uncritically copied what Ripard Teg says? You do them a disservice, I suspect.



And you or these people have not listened to every other bonus round recording either.

sohkar was a fringe case, and Ripard knew that.

Nikul Naath one month prior played the BR like a champ, and also "Good Fight'd" me afterwards, when I stood in his corp and possessed his shares. And that too was featured on Minerbumping.

Refer to page 88 for my post on facts, as well a Kristalll's full twitch stream.

And quit linking a bunch of blogs.

Now you are doing nothing more than rabble-rousing for page views.

Much like our "wonderful" CSM representative.

Roll

*edit fixed quote

A fringe case? Doubtless. Just like this guy: https://soundcloud.com/fancy-space-tourist/happy-miner-payout. Totally atypical. No sense of a pattern here at all.

"Enduring", "restrained" and "ample" as designations for starship components are foreign to the genre of high-tech science fiction and don’t belong in Eve Online. (And as for “scoped” …)

Don Aubaris
#7252 - 2014-03-28 08:21:10 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Don Aubaris wrote:
So they made up...after 1 month.
Well nice for them.

But it doesn't really matter. It's not because a victim forgives his assailant, or doen't even see himself as victim anymore, that a community has no obligation to stop such things in the first place. Because one day this will end badly. I still hope CCP still does something more then just 'looking into it'.




And you didn't know about any of it until one month after it happened.

The victim's opinion of whether or not he's a victim is pretty valid in determining whether there was a victim or not.



"Yes, officer. I did kill him. But it was over a month ago and he didn't put down a complaint.
So why exactly are you bothering me?"

I find your argumentation rather not to the point. While you can say that someone is a different person after 10 years and his actions then should not be evaluated in todays light, that argument is not really valid for 1 month. And wether are not a victim considers himself a victim is also irrelevant in criminal cases. Atleast in most of Europe as far as I know. It's the state (=the community) that presses charges. Not the victim.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#7253 - 2014-03-28 08:21:37 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, does anyone else wonder if Luminous Spirit really went to the FBI, the ESRB and all those watchdog groups?

Because I'm reasonably sure that making false reports to the FBI is a crime. And a pretty hefty one, too. Even if it's done out of stupidity, btw.


You know....

I would almost say I feel sorry for them....

But I don't.

Is pretty funny they flew through high sec in an interceptor trying to disseminate anarchy.

Think of that time that could have been spent doing something productive.

Pirate

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7254 - 2014-03-28 08:22:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, does anyone else wonder if Luminous Spirit really went to the FBI, the ESRB and all those watchdog groups?

Because I'm reasonably sure that making false reports to the FBI is a crime. And a pretty hefty one, too. Even if it's done out of stupidity, btw.

If he did, then based on what I read of his posts, it would have been done with the right intention, even if many of us feel it was misguided (and there would be many people who feel it was justified).

That is not a crime and quite frankly, all the talk of crime in this thread has been too much already.

Luminous Spirit put up a very passionate argument for his position and if ever I was in a situation where I needed someone to back me on the forum, he would be one person on the list.

Surely we can just drop that now.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#7255 - 2014-03-28 08:26:13 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, does anyone else wonder if Luminous Spirit really went to the FBI, the ESRB and all those watchdog groups?

Because I'm reasonably sure that making false reports to the FBI is a crime. And a pretty hefty one, too. Even if it's done out of stupidity, btw.

If he did, then based on what I read of his posts, it would have been done with the right intention, even if many of us feel it was misguided (and there would be many people who feel it was justified).

That is not a crime and quite frankly, all the talk of crime in this thread has been too much already.

Luminous Spirit put up a very strong argument for his position.


He put up a strong argument that he's a over zealous puppet, who feels instead of thinking. That pretty puts him on my permanent **** list. Especially since, if all of that bullshit wasn't just him spouting off, it's basically a giant series of irl threats and forum rule violations.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7256 - 2014-03-28 08:28:09 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, does anyone else wonder if Luminous Spirit really went to the FBI, the ESRB and all those watchdog groups?

Because I'm reasonably sure that making false reports to the FBI is a crime. And a pretty hefty one, too. Even if it's done out of stupidity, btw.


You know....

I would almost say I feel sorry for them....

But I don't.

Is pretty funny they flew through high sec in an interceptor trying to disseminate anarchy.



The FBI and the ESRB? In one interceptor?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7257 - 2014-03-28 08:29:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Don Aubaris wrote:
"Yes, officer. I did kill him. But it was over a month ago and he didn't put down a complaint.
So why exactly are you bothering me?"
Who killed who here?

Don Aubaris wrote:
I find your argumentation rather not to the point.
Not empty quoting.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7258 - 2014-03-28 08:31:15 UTC
I pulled a guy on to TS & made him sing the Bohemian Rhapsody to stop me from blowing up his undefended alchemy POS in lowsec. I blew it up anyway, but that's not the point. We both had a good time.

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Anomaly One
Doomheim
#7259 - 2014-03-28 08:31:31 UTC
Scipio Aretlius wrote:
Luminous Spirit put up a very strong argument for his position.


I see what you did there

but just to remind others
he wanted to ban scamming all together and implements microsofts way (wtf is that) in EvE scammers and gankers get a red card (first lol)

he compared Ero and co. to pedophiles/rapists etc.
practically after every long post he will post, "time to ban/just ban them/ ban them all/ get rid of the sadist scums"
...
...

Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk

Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7260 - 2014-03-28 08:31:57 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:

Blog posts are really not much different from coming to the forum to offer an opnion. They just provide a separate platform to use.

So given that you are already here, at most that amounts to an additional 7 voices (Ripard having already added to this thread also).

Those voices are just as valuable as everyone else's, but there's nothing mystical or special about a blog post that gives it any more weight in the argument than the threadnaught that we have built here.

I'd include it all as valuable information, but blog posts don't change the overall conclusion we will each take away from this.


"Separate platform" is the point. They took the time to voice their opinions and some chose not to do so here (gee, I wonder why with all these friendly folks /eyeroll), so I wished to make sure their voices got just as much airtime as they could.

As for listing my own and Ripard's - when I make lists, my OCD comes out. I couldn't not add them ><